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HOW COME WE HAVE PREPARED ARMY AND ARE LONGING FOR A DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION WITH FEAR?
Siranuysh Papyan, Interviewer
Interview - 30 December 2014, 12:22
Can CSTO be a guarantor of the security of Armenia when CSTO did
not react in any way during the recent escalation? Why are the
Armenian authorities attaching so much importance to the role of
this organization?
Because they have no other way out, and this organization, according
to the documents, is defending the independence of Armenia. On the
other hand, Russia is playing a bad game with Armenia and does not
recognize the sovereignty of Armenia very often. Not only Armenia. The
independence of former Soviet states is unacceptable for Moscow but
it is easy to express this towards the Armenian government because our
government is weak and allows external forces to treat it in any way,
violating the sovereignty of Armenia and insulting its dignity.
Unfortunately, the Armenian government silently accepts that brunt
because the important thing to them is the status quo of the NKR issue,
and they do not care much about what can happen in other spheres. Such
treatment of Armenia will gradually intensify, the loop will tighten
around Armenia, and one bright sunny day we will have to cut ourselves
from sovereignty and Karabakh. There is such danger.
When they say that Armenia was joining the EEU within its recognized
borders, without Karabakh, one can somehow understand this but
recently Vladimir Putin has announced that a general headquarters
managing commands of all the national armies must be created in
Moscow. This means that Armenia is going to lose its sovereignty in
this sphere. This is a serious threat.
In his year-end press conference Putin did not mention the Russian
base in Armenia when speaking about the Russian bases. Was this a
slip of the tongue?
Either Putin forgot about the Armenian military base or he no longer
perceives Armenia as a sovereign state, there is not a third option.
The president of Belarus opposes Moscow trying to promote the interests
of his country whereas Serzh Sargsyan is silent.
Yes, the president of Armenia is always silent. It is understood
that one must be cautious but we may thus lose everything. Today's
authorities announce that we must be cautious, realistic, we are
facing the danger of war. But which government has brought us to
the verge of war, which government has weakened us to the extent of
boosting danger of war? They are so weak and they so easily accept
violation of their dignity by Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan. They are
weak before Russia but they want to feel strong against their people,
the people of NKR and the Diaspora. It is easy to be strong against
one's own people but as soon as they have to say something to Russia,
Belarus or Kazakhstan, they are silent, and this is dangerous. Today's
government does not want peace.
Can such attitude lead to war?
Not necessarily but it will not lead to peace for sure. Russia
guarantees our security without peace and the West guarantees Armenia's
peace but not security. Armenia is between these two.
What should Armenia choose, what should Armenia do?
Armenia and Karabakh must unite into one state.
Many people say it will expose us to other risks.
Every option has its risks but we must choose the best option. Aren't
there risks if we continue in this way? Since all the issues, including
diplomatic, political security, are related to the status of Karabakh,
all the presidents of Armenia beginning with Levon Ter-Petrosyan must
account for this one day. 200 years will pass, and the question will be
asked how come Armenia did not recognize the independence of Karabakh,
and whether the signing of the truce by the NKR government was not
recognition. We are paying a high price now but one day we will get out
of this process. Either Armenia must unite with Karabakh and declare a
new republic which will be recognized by several states or we will walk
towards collapse when neither Karabakh will be liberated nor Armenia
will be independent. How come we have such a prepared army and are
longing for a diplomatic solution with fear. Next year Azerbaijan's
military budget will be 4 billion dollars, they are buying weapons
from Russia and other countries, while you are waiting and saying
that today it is dangerous to recognize the independence of NKR. And
is non-recognition safe? What is safer? They should have recognized
the independence of Karabakh a long time ago. The Armenian people
have a mindset that it is difficult to be sovereign, responsible but
it is necessary to rid of this mindset. We must be more responsible,
more dignified. When one has a history of three thousand years and
has won the war in Karabakh, you must not act as you are acting now.
I would like to comment on the Russian analyst Alexander Dugin who
states that Armenians will become extinct unless they are with the
Russians. Who is responsible for the statements of this idiot Dugin,
who is Dugin to judge us, who is he against our history? Who are you,
Dugin, to make such a statement? Unfortunately, nobody of Armenia is
responding to him publicly.
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Siranuysh Papyan, Interviewer
Interview - 30 December 2014, 12:22
Can CSTO be a guarantor of the security of Armenia when CSTO did
not react in any way during the recent escalation? Why are the
Armenian authorities attaching so much importance to the role of
this organization?
Because they have no other way out, and this organization, according
to the documents, is defending the independence of Armenia. On the
other hand, Russia is playing a bad game with Armenia and does not
recognize the sovereignty of Armenia very often. Not only Armenia. The
independence of former Soviet states is unacceptable for Moscow but
it is easy to express this towards the Armenian government because our
government is weak and allows external forces to treat it in any way,
violating the sovereignty of Armenia and insulting its dignity.
Unfortunately, the Armenian government silently accepts that brunt
because the important thing to them is the status quo of the NKR issue,
and they do not care much about what can happen in other spheres. Such
treatment of Armenia will gradually intensify, the loop will tighten
around Armenia, and one bright sunny day we will have to cut ourselves
from sovereignty and Karabakh. There is such danger.
When they say that Armenia was joining the EEU within its recognized
borders, without Karabakh, one can somehow understand this but
recently Vladimir Putin has announced that a general headquarters
managing commands of all the national armies must be created in
Moscow. This means that Armenia is going to lose its sovereignty in
this sphere. This is a serious threat.
In his year-end press conference Putin did not mention the Russian
base in Armenia when speaking about the Russian bases. Was this a
slip of the tongue?
Either Putin forgot about the Armenian military base or he no longer
perceives Armenia as a sovereign state, there is not a third option.
The president of Belarus opposes Moscow trying to promote the interests
of his country whereas Serzh Sargsyan is silent.
Yes, the president of Armenia is always silent. It is understood
that one must be cautious but we may thus lose everything. Today's
authorities announce that we must be cautious, realistic, we are
facing the danger of war. But which government has brought us to
the verge of war, which government has weakened us to the extent of
boosting danger of war? They are so weak and they so easily accept
violation of their dignity by Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan. They are
weak before Russia but they want to feel strong against their people,
the people of NKR and the Diaspora. It is easy to be strong against
one's own people but as soon as they have to say something to Russia,
Belarus or Kazakhstan, they are silent, and this is dangerous. Today's
government does not want peace.
Can such attitude lead to war?
Not necessarily but it will not lead to peace for sure. Russia
guarantees our security without peace and the West guarantees Armenia's
peace but not security. Armenia is between these two.
What should Armenia choose, what should Armenia do?
Armenia and Karabakh must unite into one state.
Many people say it will expose us to other risks.
Every option has its risks but we must choose the best option. Aren't
there risks if we continue in this way? Since all the issues, including
diplomatic, political security, are related to the status of Karabakh,
all the presidents of Armenia beginning with Levon Ter-Petrosyan must
account for this one day. 200 years will pass, and the question will be
asked how come Armenia did not recognize the independence of Karabakh,
and whether the signing of the truce by the NKR government was not
recognition. We are paying a high price now but one day we will get out
of this process. Either Armenia must unite with Karabakh and declare a
new republic which will be recognized by several states or we will walk
towards collapse when neither Karabakh will be liberated nor Armenia
will be independent. How come we have such a prepared army and are
longing for a diplomatic solution with fear. Next year Azerbaijan's
military budget will be 4 billion dollars, they are buying weapons
from Russia and other countries, while you are waiting and saying
that today it is dangerous to recognize the independence of NKR. And
is non-recognition safe? What is safer? They should have recognized
the independence of Karabakh a long time ago. The Armenian people
have a mindset that it is difficult to be sovereign, responsible but
it is necessary to rid of this mindset. We must be more responsible,
more dignified. When one has a history of three thousand years and
has won the war in Karabakh, you must not act as you are acting now.
I would like to comment on the Russian analyst Alexander Dugin who
states that Armenians will become extinct unless they are with the
Russians. Who is responsible for the statements of this idiot Dugin,
who is Dugin to judge us, who is he against our history? Who are you,
Dugin, to make such a statement? Unfortunately, nobody of Armenia is
responding to him publicly.
http://www.lragir.am/index/eng/0/interview/view/33371#sthash.sy3yxCOm.dpuf