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"Stepanakert is allowed to join the nationwide rejection." Armen Aghayan
August 2 2014
The political scientist about the recent statement of NKR Prime
Minister and Armenia's Foreign Department being a Department of
Russia's Foreign Ministry So far, Stepanakert was claiming that they
had not officially received the documents containing the Madrid called
principles, consequently, they could not make comment. In the
meantime, at the Q&A with the social network users, last week, the
Nagorno-Karabakh Prime Minister, Ara Harutyunyan, stated, "Of course,
the Madrid principles are unacceptable for us. What we hear, we have
heard from the newspapers, media, and the statements by the
representatives of co-chair countries, and I do not think that if
Artsakh is a side of the talks, it will hold discussions on this
issue, and (...) when in the end, such document will be submitted to
Artsakh, Artsakh people, and the government, it can get any positive
response." Since the last decade, this appears to be the first such
statement voiced by Stepanakert. To the question of Aravot that under
the current geopolitical situation, what such position by official
Stepanakert means in the event when the Madrid principles appeared to
be acceptable negotiation provisions for the official Yerevan,
"Hayazn" party Board member, Armen Aghayan said at the semi-secret
format of the talks enables to refrain from the necessity to answer
the difficult questions for some time. This was in all the rounds, at
all recommendations by the co-chairs. The public mainly learned about
them through ad hoc international outflows, whose were aimed at
checking the response of political forces, civil society, and directly
conflict-related groups. And every time, when the response was rough
denial, our respective officials pretended not to know what is the
matter about. And even in the case of becoming evident, the entities
negotiating on behalf of Armenia have never rejected the anti-Armenian
solutions. "Yerevan has periodically used Stepanakert for voicing
comparatively tough and negative statements. I think that we have the
same picture with regard to the Madrid principles. As long as they
were discussed, Stepanakert was to be silent, and when the public
rejection is obvious, and the next document has lost its relevance,
Stepanakert is allowed to join the nationwide rejection. And Yerevan,
in all cases, continues to stay in its role of agreeing to everything.
This may seem a smart diplomacy for some people, but in reality, this
is a children's game, which does not have any external importance but
an internal campaign," said our interlocutor, adding, "Particularly,
the following prime minister's idea that "when Artsakh becomes a
negotiating party, and Artsakh is presented such an offer, then it
will not be discussed, and will be rejected" is only for internal use,
since Artsakh can never be a negotiating party. Such a thing is simply
impossible and there is no sense. Such statements are just an attempt
to divert our and especially Artsakh people's attention from the
consistent defeatist policy of the Yerevan authorities, including the
preliminary agreements give to the Madrid and other similar
solutions." To the question of whether it is due to Armenia's foreign
ministry official silence about the NKR Prime Minister's statement,
our interlocutor said, "Armenia has no foreign policy, and what we
consider to be an official department reminds of a local department of
the Foreign Ministers, recently, more of a Russian Foreign Ministry.
Naturally, it should be silent, and it's better to be silent. When it
speaks, it should definitely speak of an anti-Armenian initiative.
It'd better keep silent." To our question of what ratio can such
position of NKR change in the settlement of the issue under this
geopolitical situation, the political scientist countered that
actually there is no and cannot be an NKR position, because there is
no such an independent and sovereign entity. "Stepanakert says what is
instructed, or at least is not prohibited from Yerevan. Therefore, it
does not change any ratio. The ratio changes the collective position
of the Armenian people, which is common both in Artsakh and in the
capital of overall Armenian state and in other regions. It does not
tolerate, and generally does not discuss any possibility of
territorial concessions. And the Madrid principles is not the first
document that the Armenian people throw into the bin of negotiation
process." The efforts of the French side to arrange the meeting of
presidents Serzh Sargsyan and Ilham Aliyev in Paris came to naught.
Now, the United States has taken on the initiative. What does the
French defeat prompt? Speaking about the questions whether the United
States will be successful, or what the expected meeting of the leaders
will produce, and whether it can be a turning point under this
geopolitical situation, Armen Aghayan noted that in the opinion of
many experts, the activeness of France was an attempt to take on the
initiative from Russia, which now probably will be continued by the
United States. "We need to understand that no one has time and
willingness now to be engaged in merely Artsakh problems. Just in the
background of developments in Ukraine, some noticed that Russia is
selling excessive amount of weapons to Baku, simultaneously
dissipating security promises to Yerevan. It could be a preparation of
entering armed forces to the region by Russia. Today, it is simply
unacceptable for the West. Moscow, Paris and Washington always share
the same opinion on version for the Karabakh settlement. Even under
this same opinion, they have never been so interested to compel such a
shameful defeat from Armenians. Instead, disagreements have arisen
between them, when it comes to the fact of whose troops should be
stationed in the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. In fact, the attempts by
Paris and Washington to activate the negotiation processes pursue the
goal to seize the trump card of the war from Russia's hands." In this
context, Armen Aghayan believes that we should not expect any
significant turning point. According to our interlocutor, the MG is
unable to generate mutually acceptable solution, at least because the
war actually has been left unfinished.
NELLY GRIGORYAN
Read more at: http://en.aravot.am/2014/08/02/166274/
From: A. Papazian
August 2 2014
The political scientist about the recent statement of NKR Prime
Minister and Armenia's Foreign Department being a Department of
Russia's Foreign Ministry So far, Stepanakert was claiming that they
had not officially received the documents containing the Madrid called
principles, consequently, they could not make comment. In the
meantime, at the Q&A with the social network users, last week, the
Nagorno-Karabakh Prime Minister, Ara Harutyunyan, stated, "Of course,
the Madrid principles are unacceptable for us. What we hear, we have
heard from the newspapers, media, and the statements by the
representatives of co-chair countries, and I do not think that if
Artsakh is a side of the talks, it will hold discussions on this
issue, and (...) when in the end, such document will be submitted to
Artsakh, Artsakh people, and the government, it can get any positive
response." Since the last decade, this appears to be the first such
statement voiced by Stepanakert. To the question of Aravot that under
the current geopolitical situation, what such position by official
Stepanakert means in the event when the Madrid principles appeared to
be acceptable negotiation provisions for the official Yerevan,
"Hayazn" party Board member, Armen Aghayan said at the semi-secret
format of the talks enables to refrain from the necessity to answer
the difficult questions for some time. This was in all the rounds, at
all recommendations by the co-chairs. The public mainly learned about
them through ad hoc international outflows, whose were aimed at
checking the response of political forces, civil society, and directly
conflict-related groups. And every time, when the response was rough
denial, our respective officials pretended not to know what is the
matter about. And even in the case of becoming evident, the entities
negotiating on behalf of Armenia have never rejected the anti-Armenian
solutions. "Yerevan has periodically used Stepanakert for voicing
comparatively tough and negative statements. I think that we have the
same picture with regard to the Madrid principles. As long as they
were discussed, Stepanakert was to be silent, and when the public
rejection is obvious, and the next document has lost its relevance,
Stepanakert is allowed to join the nationwide rejection. And Yerevan,
in all cases, continues to stay in its role of agreeing to everything.
This may seem a smart diplomacy for some people, but in reality, this
is a children's game, which does not have any external importance but
an internal campaign," said our interlocutor, adding, "Particularly,
the following prime minister's idea that "when Artsakh becomes a
negotiating party, and Artsakh is presented such an offer, then it
will not be discussed, and will be rejected" is only for internal use,
since Artsakh can never be a negotiating party. Such a thing is simply
impossible and there is no sense. Such statements are just an attempt
to divert our and especially Artsakh people's attention from the
consistent defeatist policy of the Yerevan authorities, including the
preliminary agreements give to the Madrid and other similar
solutions." To the question of whether it is due to Armenia's foreign
ministry official silence about the NKR Prime Minister's statement,
our interlocutor said, "Armenia has no foreign policy, and what we
consider to be an official department reminds of a local department of
the Foreign Ministers, recently, more of a Russian Foreign Ministry.
Naturally, it should be silent, and it's better to be silent. When it
speaks, it should definitely speak of an anti-Armenian initiative.
It'd better keep silent." To our question of what ratio can such
position of NKR change in the settlement of the issue under this
geopolitical situation, the political scientist countered that
actually there is no and cannot be an NKR position, because there is
no such an independent and sovereign entity. "Stepanakert says what is
instructed, or at least is not prohibited from Yerevan. Therefore, it
does not change any ratio. The ratio changes the collective position
of the Armenian people, which is common both in Artsakh and in the
capital of overall Armenian state and in other regions. It does not
tolerate, and generally does not discuss any possibility of
territorial concessions. And the Madrid principles is not the first
document that the Armenian people throw into the bin of negotiation
process." The efforts of the French side to arrange the meeting of
presidents Serzh Sargsyan and Ilham Aliyev in Paris came to naught.
Now, the United States has taken on the initiative. What does the
French defeat prompt? Speaking about the questions whether the United
States will be successful, or what the expected meeting of the leaders
will produce, and whether it can be a turning point under this
geopolitical situation, Armen Aghayan noted that in the opinion of
many experts, the activeness of France was an attempt to take on the
initiative from Russia, which now probably will be continued by the
United States. "We need to understand that no one has time and
willingness now to be engaged in merely Artsakh problems. Just in the
background of developments in Ukraine, some noticed that Russia is
selling excessive amount of weapons to Baku, simultaneously
dissipating security promises to Yerevan. It could be a preparation of
entering armed forces to the region by Russia. Today, it is simply
unacceptable for the West. Moscow, Paris and Washington always share
the same opinion on version for the Karabakh settlement. Even under
this same opinion, they have never been so interested to compel such a
shameful defeat from Armenians. Instead, disagreements have arisen
between them, when it comes to the fact of whose troops should be
stationed in the Armenian-Azerbaijani border. In fact, the attempts by
Paris and Washington to activate the negotiation processes pursue the
goal to seize the trump card of the war from Russia's hands." In this
context, Armen Aghayan believes that we should not expect any
significant turning point. According to our interlocutor, the MG is
unable to generate mutually acceptable solution, at least because the
war actually has been left unfinished.
NELLY GRIGORYAN
Read more at: http://en.aravot.am/2014/08/02/166274/
From: A. Papazian