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PRESS RELEASE - 28/06/2007 11:11:42 AM
"THEY HAVE STOLEN THE NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD FROM US"
In an interview with Juan Michel (*) a prominent Iraqi Christian shares his
views on the situation in the violence-plagued country.
"I come from a wounded Iraq and a severely wounded Baghdad," said the man in
black habit standing in front of some 130 silent church representatives from
six continents gathered for a peace conference on the Middle East. "The
situation in my country is tragic," the man continued. "We were promised
freedom, but what we need today is freedom to have electricity, clean water,
to satisfy the basic needs of life, to live without fear of being abducted."
The man addressing the World Council of Churches (WCC) 18-20 June
international conference "Churches together for peace and justice in the
Middle East" in Amman, Jordan was Baghdad's Armenian Archbishop Avak
Asadourian, primate of the Armenian Apostolic Church (See of Etchmiadzin) in
Iraq.
Asadourian was in Amman representing the Council of Christian Church Leaders
in Baghdad. Created in June last year, it is a body made up of 17 church
leaders, including two patriarchs, from four Christian families: Catholic,
Oriental and Eastern Orthodox and mainline Protestants. The Armenian primate
is its general secretary.
Why did Baghdad's church leaders establish this council?
To take care of our faithful in these difficult times and to keep in touch
with other Christian bodies. The Council presents the needs of our people to
humanitarian organizations and channels their help.
What is the situation of Iraqi Christians today?
The situation is the same for all Iraqis, Christians or Muslims, and it is a
tragic one. Bullets do not discriminate between religions. Every day
terrorist attacks are targeting people who could be the cornerstone of a new
Iraq: professionals, physicians, and engineers. And this is resulting in an
across-the-board brain drain, which is a shame since it takes decades to
train qualified people.
Are Christians being targeted because of their religion?
Not as such, except lately when Christians living in a certain area of
Baghdad have been ordered to leave or be killed. The violence is targeting
everyone in the same way. Of course, in a context of complete lawlessness,
some thugs do whatever they want. They can threaten you, kidnap or kill you.
Recently, two Christian priests, one Orthodox and the other Chaldean, were
killed. In my church, 27 members have died because of the violence since
2003. Although not personally targeted, they were simply in the wrong place
at the wrong time. Another 23 members have been kidnapped. Since many
Christians are relatively well off, they become targets for possible ransom,
just like well-off Muslims do.
According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, some 1.2
million people have fled Iraq since the start of last year. What about the
Iraqi Christians?
Before the war, Christians made up some 7-8% of the population. Today, they
are 3-4%. Christians are also moving north within the country, to relatively
safer areas. The churches are emptying. In my own church, we used to have
some 600-700 faithful worshipping every Sunday. Today, they are 100-150. The
reasons are several: they might be afraid of going out, but they also might
simply not have petrol in their cars - queues at gas stations are three to
five kilometres long - or they might have moved out of Baghdad.
What were Muslim-Christian relations like before the war and what are they
like today?
We Christians were in the country before Islam arrived, especially in the
northern part. But faith-based distinctions were never an issue: Sunni,
Shia, Christian. Our relationships were very amicable. These differences
only became an issue after the war started.
However, we work to maintain bridges. We have twice visited the country's
most prominent Shia cleric, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, as well as the Sunni
leadership. And I want to give credit where credit is due. High-ranking
Muslim clerics deserve credit for their efforts in trying to prevent the
present conflict from evolving into a full-blown civil war.
Are you experiencing the impact of clashing civilizations?
I don't see a clash of civilizations but a bungled war with tragic results
for both sides. It seems to me that the occupying powers did not do their
homework well. It is one thing to take over a country, and another thing to
run it properly in order to allow people to be able to exercise freedom.
Security is needed to make democracy viable. Democracy is not only a
concept, but also a way of life. Today in Iraq, we need basic freedoms, like
freedom from fear, freedom to work, to travel in order to satisfy basic
needs. One of the tragic features of the current situation is the fact that
they have stolen the nights of Baghdad from us.
What do you think would be a possible way out?
The occupying powers have to enforce the Geneva conventions and guarantee
the security of the country. If they were able to bring about security, a
lot of problems would be solved. Ours is a rich country. We have land,
water, brainpower, the second largest oil reserves in the world - which
ultimately instead of being a blessing has become a curse.
My message to my flock is: do not be afraid, but be careful. Confront this
dire situation with optimism, and pray and work for a better future.
How could churches outside Iraq help you?
I wonder whether churches outside Iraq are speaking about this issue boldly
enough to be heard. If they were able to advocate effectively with their
governments, they should tell the occupying powers to fulfill their promises
of a better life for Iraq. Promises of a bright future should now be
substantiated. One key point in the story of the Good Samaritan is that he
not only extended help, but his help was complete and effective.
Some US churches have been asking for a timetable for the withdrawal of US
troops from Iraq. What do you think about this?
At this point in time, I don't know... It's a two-edged sword. Is it going
to bring about peace or play into the hands of terrorists? But an occupation
is never acceptable and is always something temporary that should eventually
come to an end.
My message to churches outside Iraq, specially to those in the occupying
countries, is: Help us to make life better for the Iraqi people, to
alleviate its suffering, to keep their governments' promises for a better
future in all walks of life, and ask for God's help in this humanitarian
endeavor.
[1,095 words]
(*) Juan Michel, WCC media relations officer, is a member of the Evangelical
Church of the River Plate in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
See the WCC press update on the 18-20 June international conference
"Churches together for peace and justice in the Middle East" at:
<http://www.oikoumene.org/en/news/news-managem ent/all-news-english/display-s
ingle-english-news/ article/1637/church-representatives-fr-1.html>
http://www.oikoumene.org/en/news/news-management/a ll-news-english/display-si
ngle-english-news/artic le/1637/church-representatives-fr-1.html
Opinio ns expressed in WCC Features do not necessarily reflect WCC policy.
This material may be reprinted freely, providing credit is given to the
author.
Additional information: Juan Michel,+41 22 791 6153 +41 79 507 6363
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
The World Council of Churches promotes Christian unity in faith, witness and
service for a just and peaceful world. An ecumenical fellowship of churches
founded in 1948, today the WCC brings together 347 Protestant, Orthodox,
Anglican and other churches representing more than 560 million Christians in
over 110 countries, and works cooperatively with the Roman Catholic Church.
The WCC general secretary is Rev. Dr Samuel Kobia, from the Methodist Church
in Kenya. Headquarters: Geneva, Switzerland.
From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress
Contact: + 41 22 791 6153 +41 79 507 6363 <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]
PRESS RELEASE - 28/06/2007 11:11:42 AM
"THEY HAVE STOLEN THE NIGHTS OF BAGHDAD FROM US"
In an interview with Juan Michel (*) a prominent Iraqi Christian shares his
views on the situation in the violence-plagued country.
"I come from a wounded Iraq and a severely wounded Baghdad," said the man in
black habit standing in front of some 130 silent church representatives from
six continents gathered for a peace conference on the Middle East. "The
situation in my country is tragic," the man continued. "We were promised
freedom, but what we need today is freedom to have electricity, clean water,
to satisfy the basic needs of life, to live without fear of being abducted."
The man addressing the World Council of Churches (WCC) 18-20 June
international conference "Churches together for peace and justice in the
Middle East" in Amman, Jordan was Baghdad's Armenian Archbishop Avak
Asadourian, primate of the Armenian Apostolic Church (See of Etchmiadzin) in
Iraq.
Asadourian was in Amman representing the Council of Christian Church Leaders
in Baghdad. Created in June last year, it is a body made up of 17 church
leaders, including two patriarchs, from four Christian families: Catholic,
Oriental and Eastern Orthodox and mainline Protestants. The Armenian primate
is its general secretary.
Why did Baghdad's church leaders establish this council?
To take care of our faithful in these difficult times and to keep in touch
with other Christian bodies. The Council presents the needs of our people to
humanitarian organizations and channels their help.
What is the situation of Iraqi Christians today?
The situation is the same for all Iraqis, Christians or Muslims, and it is a
tragic one. Bullets do not discriminate between religions. Every day
terrorist attacks are targeting people who could be the cornerstone of a new
Iraq: professionals, physicians, and engineers. And this is resulting in an
across-the-board brain drain, which is a shame since it takes decades to
train qualified people.
Are Christians being targeted because of their religion?
Not as such, except lately when Christians living in a certain area of
Baghdad have been ordered to leave or be killed. The violence is targeting
everyone in the same way. Of course, in a context of complete lawlessness,
some thugs do whatever they want. They can threaten you, kidnap or kill you.
Recently, two Christian priests, one Orthodox and the other Chaldean, were
killed. In my church, 27 members have died because of the violence since
2003. Although not personally targeted, they were simply in the wrong place
at the wrong time. Another 23 members have been kidnapped. Since many
Christians are relatively well off, they become targets for possible ransom,
just like well-off Muslims do.
According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, some 1.2
million people have fled Iraq since the start of last year. What about the
Iraqi Christians?
Before the war, Christians made up some 7-8% of the population. Today, they
are 3-4%. Christians are also moving north within the country, to relatively
safer areas. The churches are emptying. In my own church, we used to have
some 600-700 faithful worshipping every Sunday. Today, they are 100-150. The
reasons are several: they might be afraid of going out, but they also might
simply not have petrol in their cars - queues at gas stations are three to
five kilometres long - or they might have moved out of Baghdad.
What were Muslim-Christian relations like before the war and what are they
like today?
We Christians were in the country before Islam arrived, especially in the
northern part. But faith-based distinctions were never an issue: Sunni,
Shia, Christian. Our relationships were very amicable. These differences
only became an issue after the war started.
However, we work to maintain bridges. We have twice visited the country's
most prominent Shia cleric, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, as well as the Sunni
leadership. And I want to give credit where credit is due. High-ranking
Muslim clerics deserve credit for their efforts in trying to prevent the
present conflict from evolving into a full-blown civil war.
Are you experiencing the impact of clashing civilizations?
I don't see a clash of civilizations but a bungled war with tragic results
for both sides. It seems to me that the occupying powers did not do their
homework well. It is one thing to take over a country, and another thing to
run it properly in order to allow people to be able to exercise freedom.
Security is needed to make democracy viable. Democracy is not only a
concept, but also a way of life. Today in Iraq, we need basic freedoms, like
freedom from fear, freedom to work, to travel in order to satisfy basic
needs. One of the tragic features of the current situation is the fact that
they have stolen the nights of Baghdad from us.
What do you think would be a possible way out?
The occupying powers have to enforce the Geneva conventions and guarantee
the security of the country. If they were able to bring about security, a
lot of problems would be solved. Ours is a rich country. We have land,
water, brainpower, the second largest oil reserves in the world - which
ultimately instead of being a blessing has become a curse.
My message to my flock is: do not be afraid, but be careful. Confront this
dire situation with optimism, and pray and work for a better future.
How could churches outside Iraq help you?
I wonder whether churches outside Iraq are speaking about this issue boldly
enough to be heard. If they were able to advocate effectively with their
governments, they should tell the occupying powers to fulfill their promises
of a better life for Iraq. Promises of a bright future should now be
substantiated. One key point in the story of the Good Samaritan is that he
not only extended help, but his help was complete and effective.
Some US churches have been asking for a timetable for the withdrawal of US
troops from Iraq. What do you think about this?
At this point in time, I don't know... It's a two-edged sword. Is it going
to bring about peace or play into the hands of terrorists? But an occupation
is never acceptable and is always something temporary that should eventually
come to an end.
My message to churches outside Iraq, specially to those in the occupying
countries, is: Help us to make life better for the Iraqi people, to
alleviate its suffering, to keep their governments' promises for a better
future in all walks of life, and ask for God's help in this humanitarian
endeavor.
[1,095 words]
(*) Juan Michel, WCC media relations officer, is a member of the Evangelical
Church of the River Plate in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
See the WCC press update on the 18-20 June international conference
"Churches together for peace and justice in the Middle East" at:
<http://www.oikoumene.org/en/news/news-managem ent/all-news-english/display-s
ingle-english-news/ article/1637/church-representatives-fr-1.html>
http://www.oikoumene.org/en/news/news-management/a ll-news-english/display-si
ngle-english-news/artic le/1637/church-representatives-fr-1.html
Opinio ns expressed in WCC Features do not necessarily reflect WCC policy.
This material may be reprinted freely, providing credit is given to the
author.
Additional information: Juan Michel,+41 22 791 6153 +41 79 507 6363
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
The World Council of Churches promotes Christian unity in faith, witness and
service for a just and peaceful world. An ecumenical fellowship of churches
founded in 1948, today the WCC brings together 347 Protestant, Orthodox,
Anglican and other churches representing more than 560 million Christians in
over 110 countries, and works cooperatively with the Roman Catholic Church.
The WCC general secretary is Rev. Dr Samuel Kobia, from the Methodist Church
in Kenya. Headquarters: Geneva, Switzerland.
From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress