Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Georgian, Armenian Presidents Praise Bilateral Relations

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Georgian, Armenian Presidents Praise Bilateral Relations

    GEORGIAN, ARMENIAN PRESIDENTS PRAISE BILATERAL RELATIONS, NOTE REGIONAL
    ISSUES

    Georgian State Television Channel 1, Tbilisi
    22 Oct 04

    Meeting in Tbilisi, the Georgian and Armenian presidents, Mikheil
    Saakashvili and Robert Kocharyan, have discussed bilateral and
    regional relations. Speaking at a joint news briefing there on 22
    October, which was broadcast live by Georgian State TV, Saakashvili
    said that Georgia, in the wake of the closure of the Georgian-Russian
    border at Verkhniy Lars, should also be able to export to countries
    other than Russia. Kocharyan urged a "pragmatic" solution to the issue
    of railway traffic through Abkhazia. The two presidents also noted
    that they would welcome "concrete" proposals and "real content" in the
    European Union's new neighbourhood initiative. The following is an
    excerpt from the report on the joint briefing; subheadings have been
    inserted editorially:

    (Presenter) A joint news briefing by the Georgian and Armenian
    presidents has just started at the State Chancellery. We are about to
    join the briefing live.

    Good Georgian-Armenian relations

    (Saakashvili, briefing in progress; all questions and answers in
    Russian unless otherwise indicated) For us it was easier to travel to
    the border (with Armenia, where the two presidents met today) than to
    the airport. Sometimes we forget about distances.

    I think that we had a very good meeting. We have a common
    understanding on nearly the entire range of issues. We always come to
    each other's aid and this is very important. For example, since the
    recent acts of sabotage against our main electricity transmission
    lines we have been importing most of electricity from Armenia. Armenia
    responded to our request very promptly and started to export
    electricity to Georgia. We would like to simplify customs and border
    procedures. (Passage omitted)

    (Kocharyan) Mr President, ladies and gentlemen: First and foremost, I
    would like to thank you for the invitation to visit Georgia. While
    this is not my first visit to Georgia, every visit is extremely
    important given the wide-ranging agenda of our relations. It is
    becoming wider with every passing year.

    We discussed very specific issues to do with our relations, and
    focused primarily on economic, transport and energy issues. We also
    talked about the harmonization of our laws, relations between the
    customs departments, police bodies and other matters. (Passage
    omitted)

    Turkey constructive player in region

    (Question) Armenian news agency Mediamax. Mr Saakashvili, you said in
    Yerevan last March that you would discuss the prospects for the
    restoration of rail traffic between Kars (Turkey) and Gyumri (Armenia)
    during your planned visit to Turkey. This, naturally, would benefit
    Georgia as well. However, there has been a lot of discussion recently
    about the prospects for building a railway to link Kars and
    Akhalkalaki (Georgia). Should we assume that the Turkish leadership is
    refusing, at least at this stage, to discuss the prospects for the
    restoration of a Kars-Gyumri service?

    (Saakashvili) Our approach, not only towards Armenia but also to all
    other international talks, including the talks in Turkey, has been
    absolutely clear. We are for the opening of more communications, more
    roads, more border checkpoints, because traditionally Georgia has been
    at the crossroads of transport corridors, various cultures, various
    trade routes and, what is very important, various human
    contacts. Naturally, we do not welcome any restrictions.

    Unfortunately, not everything is up to Georgia. Of course, there are
    complex regional problems. I am sure that the Turkish leadership is
    very constructive. This was my impression after all my talks with
    Prime Minister (of Turkey Recep) Erdogan. They are firmly on the road
    towards integration with the EU. Our experience of relations with them
    has been exclusively positive. I have never heard them making any
    aggressive statements about any one of the issues concerning their
    neighbours. I think that the process of regional cooperation and the
    opening of new roads are inevitable and we will have even more
    opportunities to solve the problems that exist.

    Naturally, there are historical problems, there are problems which
    have accumulated in the region over recent times, but I think that
    there is a trend towards their resolution, not the emergence of new
    problems or the preservation of status quo. In this respect, Georgia
    is ready to play a positive role everywhere, at all levels, at all
    forums, both multilateral and bilateral. This is what I can say.

    Georgians should also export to countries other than Russia

    (Question) Rustavi-2 TV. I have a question to both Mr Saakashvili and
    Mr Kocharyan. The question concerns the Larsi section (Verkhniy Lars
    checkpoint on the Georgian-Russian border), which has been closed for
    quite some time. This is creating problems for both Georgians and
    Armenians.

    Did you discuss the issue today? In your view, how can this problem be
    resolved? And was it a mere coincidence that Russia reopened the
    border today?

    Robert Sedrakovich (Kocharyan), we know that you spoke to Russian
    President Vladimir Putin yesterday. Did you touch on this issue? Thank
    you.

    (Kocharyan) Sometimes there are pleasant coincidences which may not
    have happened by chance. I think that the opening of this road means
    that the tension in North Ossetia, caused by the Beslan events, has
    subsided. I think that this step (the closure of the border) was a
    result of the tension in North Ossetia.

    (Saakashvili) I think this did not happen by chance. I think that
    today's visit by the president of Armenia and our meeting coincided
    with the opening of this road. (Sentence as heard)

    At the same time, we must know that (changes tack) - of course we want
    Russia to resolve all its problems concerning the North
    Caucasus. However, the Georgian exporters, as well as all the others,
    must diversify their markets. (Switches to Georgian)

    Our side of the border will open in half an hour and traffic in the
    direction of Russia will resume. However, everyone should remember the
    lesson we have learnt in recent months. We must realize that should
    problems of this sort arise, all Georgian exporters, all Georgian
    businesses should be ready to search for alternative markets, with the
    state's help. Of course, we should also preserve the Russian market,
    as we cannot be dependant on only one market forever.

    Our independence, our freedom, our independent course and our
    wellbeing require that we, together with our friends, learn to work on
    all other markets, while maintaining good relations with
    Russia. (Passage omitted: repeats the same in Russian; Kocharyan says
    all parties have suffered because of the closure)

    (Kocharyan) One may see something bad behind this fact (border
    closure), but one may also try to find an explanation in the present
    situation, the present concerns which I have mentioned. I am inclined
    not to dramatise the situation and I would not like to see this sort
    of thing happen again. I want roads to operate in a normal way. The
    more roads there are, the better. If there was a Turkish road across
    the Armenian border, everything in the region would have been
    excellent.

    Georgia to build new road to Javakheti region

    (Question) Armen Akopyan, correspondent of the (Armenian) newspaper
    Ayots Ashkhar. I have a question to Mr Saakashvili. Mr President, it
    is well known that many Armenians live in Georgia, especially in
    Javakhk (predominantly Armenian-populated Akhalkalaki and Ninotsminda
    districts in Georgia's Samtskhe-Javakheti Region). It is also well
    known there are difficult economic conditions in this region: shortage
    of jobs, damaged highways. Does the Georgian leadership have a
    programme for the economic and social development of Javakheti? By the
    way, when are you going to visit this region?

    (Saakashvili) First of all, I am indeed indebted to the population of
    Javakheti who provided great support to me in the (January 2004)
    presidential election. My wife has already been there seven or eight
    times, but unfortunately I have not been able to go there. However, I
    am going to pay a good visit. I do not want to go anywhere with empty
    hands. We have been talking to donors, to the countries which have
    been supporting us, and I think that we will be able to obtain money
    for building a new road to Akhalkalaki. This is very important for us,
    both economically and politically. We already have enough money from
    the World Bank to build half of this road, and its construction is set
    to begin next year. As regards the other half, we have got several
    concrete promises. I think that this road should be built within the
    next two years, so that the population gets access to all markets and
    the region is integrated economically.

    It is also very important for us that the region should maintain close
    ties with border areas of Armenia and with Armenia in general, but, at
    the same time, the region should be economically successful in
    relation to the whole country (Georgia), and the road is the key to
    this. This is one of the priorities of my presidential term. I think
    that our citizens who live in Javakheti are very talented people, very
    interesting people in their attitude towards business and
    entrepreneurship. I would like to say that many of them work in Russia
    on various construction sites where especially skilled workers are
    required. We would like these people to work in Georgia. We would like
    to see local businesses (of Javakheti) to expand throughout
    Georgia. We would like these people to take part in various regional
    projects. However, the journey from there to Tbilisi is three times
    longer than it should be. This is absolutely inappropriate, of
    course. Once again, I would like to note that despite its isolation
    and unfavourable climate, local people there have still managed to
    build good hotels, good shops, a good network of cafes, and they are
    managing well. I do not think that this is an achievement of the
    Georgian government, I think that this is an achievement of their
    talent. If we open our doors for this talent to reach the whole
    country and international projects, I think that not only this
    population but also the whole of Georgia will have many good
    prospects. (Passage omitted)

    No disagreements in border demarcation work

    (Question) Armenian newspaper Azg, this is a question to both
    presidents. When will the process of demarcation of the
    Georgian-Armenian border begin? Have you discussed this issue? Could
    this issue lead to some disputes, so to speak, between Georgia and
    Armenia? Thank you.

    (Kocharyan) It is better to ask when this work will be finished, not
    when it will begin. There was agreement in principle and we should
    have finished the work this year. There have been changes on the
    Georgian side of this commission. The Georgian representative was sent
    to Poland as ambassador, if I am not mistaken, and a new person will
    be appointed. I think we will work in a normal manner and we will be
    able to finish this work next year. So far, there have been no painful
    issues in the commission's work which could lead to serious
    disagreements. It is possible to resolve these issues in a normal,
    calm and working atmosphere.

    (Saakashvili) For the past two thousand years, Armenia and Georgia
    have had no territorial claims against each other (smiles), and I
    think this will remain as it has been.

    Cooperation with Baltic states and Europe in general

    (Question) Malkhaz Oniani, Channel One of Georgian Television. Mr
    President Kocharyan, do you share the Georgian president's initiative
    about a three-plus-three format regarding cooperation between the
    Baltic and South Caucasus countries? And my second question is this:
    Have you discussed the issue of reopening railway traffic between
    Armenia and Russia through Abkhazia? Thank you.

    (Kocharyan) As regards the first part of your question, we began
    discussion of our coordinated activities within the framework of the
    European Union's new initiative about new neighbourhood. We agreed to
    continue this discussion tomorrow because it requires some
    brainstorming. This policy has been declared, but it has not been
    formulated what it means specifically. Right now, the process of
    formulating this concept is under way. We should be able to play a
    certain role in this too. I think that the concept of the new
    neighbourhood should be fully fledged, it should not be just a
    declaration about new neighbours, there should be some real content.

    As regards the three-plus-three idea, if I'm not mistaken it was
    declared in the same context - that the Baltic republics could act as
    lobbyists in the formulation of this concept of new neighbours. We are
    ready to cooperate with them. We will continue the discussion of this
    issue with the president of Georgia today and tomorrow. However, I am
    not sure that the three Baltic republics themselves have reached a
    consensus in this respect. Two years ago, there was no full agreement
    there, among them.

    (Saakashvili) We talked about this issue. This issue is about regional
    cooperation. We are not talking about some radical political platform
    or a formal international organization, but I think the South Caucasus
    countries will reach an agreement on this issue, and Robert
    Sedrakovich (Kocharyan) has confirmed this. As regards agreement among
    the Baltic countries, Lithuania has assured us that they have already
    reached agreement. So, we have made steps forward. We are interested
    in concrete issues. We are members of the European Union's new
    neighbourhood. What will we gain from this? What will each country
    gain from this, with respect to tariffs and preferential treatment? I
    want to know specifically when we will be exporting Georgian wine to
    Poland. Will it be subject to three times more taxes than now? Or will
    it be subject to a preferential tariff, which it should be? We will
    certainly be able to agree on this if we create certain formats of
    regional cooperation. Therefore, I think that the initiative was
    timely. We see pragmatic aspects of this initiative for the
    development of our economies. (Passage omitted)

    Armenia calls for restoration of railway traffic through Abkhazia

    (Kocharyan) Your second question was about railway traffic. In
    general, we discussed questions related to railway traffic in the
    South Caucasus. There are certain ideas in this respect, but I do not
    want to talk about them now because they are only raw ideas. These are
    ideas about possible cooperation of all railways, maybe cooperation in
    some structural forms.

    We did not discuss this (Abkhazia) section specifically, but I can
    tell you what my point of view on this is, taking into account
    Georgia's concerns as well. In principle, the more lines are in
    operation, the better it is for all of us. As regards the Abkhazia
    section specifically, this section is working between Abkhazia and
    Russia. So, if it is working there, the absence of any through traffic
    is simply disadvantageous for both you and us, which makes no sense.
    I think that, taking into account all difficulties and all concerns, a
    pragmatic attitude would be useful, although I understand that this is
    complicated. This is a question for Georgia to decide.

    (Saakashvili) Thank you. I think there will be more possibilities (to
    ask questions) during the next few days. Thank you once again, and
    special thanks to our guests.

    From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress
Working...
X