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    ARMENIAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE OF AMERICA
    1711 N Street NW
    Washington, DC 20036
    Tel: (202) 775-1918
    Fax: (202) 775-5648
    Email: [email protected]
    Website: www.anca.org

    PRESS RELEASE
    September 24, 2008
    Contact: Elizabeth S. Chouldjian
    Tel: (202) 775-1918
    Email: [email protected]

    MENENDEZ HAMMERS TURKEY'S "HISTORICAL COMMISSION" PROPOSAL

    -- Senators Menendez and Kerry Grill Ambassador Designate to Ankara
    during Confirmation Hearing

    WASHINGTON, DC - New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez pressed U.S.
    Ambassador to Turkey nominee James Jeffrey to explain the
    Administration's apparent renewed backing for Turkey's widely
    discredited push for a "historical commission" on the Armenian
    Genocide, reported the Armenian National Committee of America
    (ANCA). The move comes despite the State Department's pledge, made
    during the nomination process for U.S. Ambassador to Armenia Marie
    Yovanovitch, to oppose efforts that would open to debate the fact
    that Ottoman Turkey used mass killings, ethnic cleansing, and
    forced deportations to destroy over one and half million Armenians.

    "We want to share our special thanks with Senator Menendez for,
    once again, shining a powerful international spotlight on the
    Administration's policy of complicity in Turkey's denial of the
    Armenian Genocide," stated ANCA Executive Director Aram Hamparian.
    "We are especially for his incisive line of questioning regarding
    the State Department's flawed and inconsistent position on Turkey's
    self-serving proposal for a historical commission. A clear
    illustration of the bankruptcy of the Administration's policy on
    the Armenian Genocide was the nominee's convoluted response to the
    simple question, posed by Senator Menendez: 'If Turkey would be
    willing to recognize the Armenian Genocide, would the United States
    be willing to do so?'"

    Ambassador-Designate Jeffrey's confirmation hearing, held earlier
    today, was chaired by Senator John Kerry (D-MA), who, in his
    opening remarks, cited his decades long support for Congressional
    reaffirmation of the Armenian Genocide. Following Amb. Jeffrey's
    testimony, Sen. Kerry led the questioning on the Armenian Genocide,
    asking if the nominee could "assure the Committee that the
    Administration is not supporting - financially, rhetorically, or
    otherwise - an effort to convene a commission to settle an
    historical debate [on the Armenian Genocide] - that in effect is
    not a debate."

    Jeffrey responded, "Mr. Chairman, as you have indicated, the
    Administration recognizes and mourns, and is very, very, very
    concerned about the historical facts, which include, as you said,
    the mass killing and the forced exile of up to 1.5 million
    Armenians at the end of the Ottoman Empire. We support, as
    President Bush made clear in his recent statement on March 24th,
    the open effort on both sides to get to the bottom of the
    historical facts and to move forward as part of a reconciliation
    process both to establish closer and eventually full relations and
    to work out these dark chapters in the past."

    Sen. Kerry followed up, asking if Jeffrey is, in effect saying that
    "we are supportive of the historical commission itself and its
    goal? Or are we supportive of simply maintaining the historical
    records?"

    Jeffrey responded: "We are supportive of anything the two sides
    mutually agree on, Sir. And as part of any process, there should
    be a full and open review of the events of that time."

    Jeffrey's response sparked a series of probing questions from
    Senator Menendez, who opened his remarks by expressing his "dismay"
    at Jeffrey's answers, arguing, "that puts us before where we were
    when we had the Ambassador designee to Armenia [Marie Yovanovitch]
    being interviewed." Senator Menendez then quoted extensively from a
    July, 2008, letter from Asst. Secretary of Legislative Affairs
    Matthew Reynolds, issued to clarify various responses that U.S.
    Ambassador to Armenia Marie Yovanovitch had given during her
    confirmation hearing. The letter explained that, a proposed effort
    to bring Turkish and Armenian archivists to the U.S. is not a means
    to "open a debate on whether the Ottomans committed these
    horrendous acts; it is to help preserve the documentation that
    supports the truth of those events." The letter went on to note
    that "the Administration recognizes that the mass killings, ethnic
    cleansing, and forced deportations of over one and a half million
    Armenians were conducted by the Ottoman Empire. We indeed hold
    Ottoman officials responsible for those crimes."

    Sen. Menendez, concerned that Jeffrey had veered away from
    Administration policy articulated in the Reynolds letter, asked
    "The historical facts, as I see it, have now been admitted to by
    the State Department and clearly stated as such." And I don't get
    the sense that's what you're telling us, so that puts a
    complication in this process. Maybe you can help us out."

    Jeffrey was again evasive, responding that, "what assistant Sec.
    Reynolds wrote is U.S. government policy and we stand by it. What
    I was trying to convey was that it is also important for Turks and
    Armenians to move forward on a joint effort to work on these issues
    to come to some kind of, to the extent they can, common view of the
    historical past."

    Menendez shot back, asking "Why would we support an initiative that
    ultimately doubts whether those are the historical facts? If the
    Turks seek to do it, that's one thing. But why would we be
    supportive of an effort that ultimately undermines the very
    position that the State Department has?"

    Jeffrey responded in generalities, noting "In conflicts such as
    this, Senator, we believe, and we apply this across the board in
    the many conflicts that I have been involved in, we have an
    obligation to the historical record and to our citizens to have our
    own views, but it is also important to encourage the various sides
    on a dispute, be it this one, be it others, to try to come to some
    sort of joint understanding of the past and a joint way forward for
    the future."

    Menendez then went back to Sen. Kerry's original question once
    again. "Would you then, as Ambassador, be someone who would
    advocate rhetorically, financially or otherwise, that the
    commission should be constituted and move forward?" Jeffrey
    responded: "The effort that can be taken for people to review
    openly the facts of that period would be supported by me."

    Sen. Menendez would later return to Amb. Jeffrey for a second round
    of questioning, expressing frustration that the lack of "straight
    answers" from Ambassadors precludes Senators from making "straight
    judgments" on key foreign policy issues. He then asked Amb.
    Jeffrey, simply, if "If Turkey would be willing to recognize the
    Armenian Genocide, would the United States be willing to do so?"
    Jeffrey initially replied that he "can't commit the Administration
    to any future action," but upon further questioning stated, that
    while Turkish recognition would be important, "there would be other
    factors that would have to be weighed, such as our general approach
    to other conflicts in the region and taking positions. The
    relationship between Turkey and Armenia is a major factor in the
    policies we take, the words we use. But there are other factors as
    well, sir."

    Menendez ended his questioning on the Administration's Armenian
    Genocide policy by asking whether Jeffrey would follow in the
    footsteps of Undersecretary Edelman and Assistant Secretary of
    State Dan Fried, who, according to multiple press accounts, last
    October, traveled to Turkey to "express regret" at House Foreign
    Affairs Committee passage of Armenian Genocide legislation.
    "Senator," said Jeffrey, "I never have and I never will express
    regret. This is an independent and equal organ of the U.S.
    government and it deserves the respect of everyone, everywhere in
    the world."

    Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman and Vice-Presidential
    nominee Joe Biden and other Committee members are set to submit
    additional questions to Ambassadorial nominee, who may be confirmed
    as early as Friday of this week.

    Extended excerpts from the Menendez-Jeffrey question and answer
    session follow.

    #####

    Excerpts of the Menendez-Jeffrey Question and Answer Session
    Senate Foreign Relations Committee
    September 24, 2008

    Sen. Menendez: When you say 'we support whatever the commission
    does to get to the bottom of the historical facts' well, that's not
    what the Administration has said to us. The Administration in its
    letter, unless we are not to believe letters sent to this Committee
    now, states 'our goal is not to open a debate on whether the
    Ottomans committed these horrendous acts; it is to help preserve
    the documentation that supports the truth of those events.' And
    that letter by Asst. Secretary of Legislative Affairs Mr. Reynolds,
    further went on to state that 'the Administration recognizes that
    the mass killings, ethnic cleansing, and forced deportations of
    over one and a half million Armenians were conducted by the Ottoman
    Empire. We indeed hold Ottoman officials responsible for those
    crimes.' What I heard you respond to the question is quite
    different. So do you want to clear it up or are you sticking to
    your story that we support whatever it is to get to the bottom of
    the facts. The historical facts, as I see it, have now been
    admitted to by the State Department and clearly stated as such.
    And I don't get the sense that's what you're telling us, so that
    puts a complication in this process. Maybe you can help us out."

    Amb. Jeffrey: Certainly what Assistant Sec. Reynolds wrote is U.S.
    government policy and we stand by it. What I was trying to
    communicate was that it is also important for Turks and Armenians
    to move forward on a joint effort to work on these issues to come
    to some kind of, to the extent they can, common view of the
    historical past.

    Sen. Menendez: If in fact we already have come to the conclusion
    that the historical facts, as outlined by Mr. Reynolds on behalf of
    the State Department in July of this year, are that 'we indeed hold
    Ottoman officials responsible for those crimes,' why would we
    support an initiative that ultimately doubts whether those are the
    historical facts? If the Turks seek to do it, that's one thing. But
    why would we be supportive of an effort that ultimately undermines
    the very position that the State Department has?

    Amb. Jeffrey: In conflicts such as this, Senator, we believe that
    as a general rule, and we apply this across the board in the many
    conflicts that I have been involved in, we have an obligation to
    our own citizens and the historical record to have our own views,
    but it is also important to encourage the various sides on a
    dispute, be it this one, be it others, to try come to some sort of
    joint understanding of the past and a joint way forward for the
    future.

    Sen. Menendez: Would you then, as Ambassador, be someone who would
    advocate rhetorically, financially or otherwise, that the
    commission should be constituted and move forward?

    Amb. Jeffrey: The effort that can be taken for people to review
    openly the facts of that period would be supported by me.

    ======================
    Sen. Menendez: If Turkey would be willing to recognize the Armenian
    Genocide, would the United States be willing to do so?

    Amb. Jeffrey: We would have to see at that time. I can't commit
    the Administration to any future action.

    Sen. Menendez: I realize you can't. But would you, as U.S.
    Ambassador to Turkey, say to the next Administration - whoever that
    Administration may be - that we should recognize it as well?

    Amb. Jeffrey: We constantly review many things in our foreign
    policy processes. This one, because of the great interest in the
    American public and in Congress, is one that gets reviewed all the
    time. That would certainly be a major factor in any review, if the
    two sides could come to an agreement on that particular term or
    other issues, related to the past, Sir.

    Sen. Menendez: Well, if Turkey, on its own, came to the evolution
    that in fact it made a decision that 'yes, a previous - not even
    Turkey as we know it today - but the Ottoman Empire did what the
    State Department says it has', that 'yes, there was a Genocide'
    would it not be in the interest of the United States to recognize
    what Turkey itself has recognized?

    Amb. Jeffrey: It would be, as you said, a very important factor,
    but aside from being concerned of committing this or a future
    Administration to a specific course of action or predicting it,
    there would be other factors that would have to be weighed, such as
    our general approach to other conflicts in the region and taking
    positions. The relationship between Turkey and Armenia is a major
    factor in the policies we take, the words we use. But there are
    other factors as well, sir.

    Sen. Menendez: When you take your oath, should you be confirmed as
    the Ambassador to Turkey, do you know what that oath says?

    Amb. Jeffrey: Yes, Sir.

    Sen. Menendez: And does that oath speak to an Adminstration or to
    the country.

    Amb. Jeffrey: It speaks to the country, Senator.

    Sen. Menendez: And in that respect, one of the things I look for,
    when we have nominees here is that, understanding fully that the
    State Department to a large degree and whatever Administration you
    work for is going to define your parameters, when I have an
    Ambassador here, I want to be able to get straight talk, so that I
    know and I can make straight judgments as one member of the U.S.
    Senate, and as a member of this committee. And I can't get that
    straight talk if I hear a constant constrainment of what is the
    truth or the realities or opinions you may have in a country as it
    relates to questions being posed to you as Members of this
    committee. So, I hope that we recognize that the oath is to this
    country and this [the Senate] is an institution of the country, at
    the end of the day. And so, let me ask you this question. There
    are a series of media accounts [. . .] that reported that
    Undersecretary of State Edelman and Assistant Secretary of State
    Dan Fried traveled to Turkey in October of 2007 to "express regret"
    over the adoption of the Armenian Genocide resolution by the U.S.
    House Foreign Affairs Committee, one that I sat in at one time. Is
    it your view, should you ultimately be approved by the Senate as an
    Ambassador, to express regret of what an institution of the U.S.
    Congress does?

    Amb. Jeffrey: Senator, I never have and I never will express
    regret. This is an independent and equal organ of the U.S.
    government and it deserves the respect of everyone, everywhere in
    the world.

    Sen. Menendez: I appreciate that answer.


    ======================================== ====
    Text of July 29th State Department Letter to
    Senate Foreign Relations Committee


    United States Department of State
    Washington DC, 20520

    July 29, 2008

    Dear Mr. Chairman:

    I am writing in response to your concerns regarding responses to
    questions for the record submitted by you and Senator Menendez
    regarding the nomination of Marie Yovanovitch as Ambassador to
    Armenia.

    Regarding your Question #1, Ms. Yovanovitch mentions an
    International Visitors Program under consideration that would bring
    archivists from Turkey and Armenia to the United States for
    professional training. Our goal is to help archivists protect the
    evidence of the past so that future generations will have the
    documentation of the mass killings and deportations of Armenians
    committed by Ottoman soldiers and other Ottoman officials in 1915.
    Our goal is not to open a debate on whether the Ottomans committed
    these horrendous acts; it is to help preserve the documentation
    that supports the truth of those events.

    Regarding Ms. Yovanovitch's response to Senator Menendez's Question
    #8, the Administration recognizes that the mass killings, ethnic
    cleansing, and forced deportations of over one and a half million
    Armenians were conducted by the Ottoman Empire. We indeed hold
    Ottoman officials responsible for those crimes.

    In her testimony, Ms. Yovanovitch tried to convey her deep empathy
    with the profound suffering of the Armenian people and in no way
    sought to cast any doubt on historical facts.

    We hope this information is helpful to you. Please do not hesitate
    to contact us if we can be of further assistance on this or any
    other matter.

    Sincerely,

    [signed]
    Matthew A. Reynolds
    Acting Assistant Secretary
    Legislative Affairs

    The Honorable
    Joseph R. Biden, Jr., Chairman,
    Committee on Foreign Relations,
    United States Senate
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