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    WE WERE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND MEANING OF FREEDOM
    Siranuysh Papyan

    Story from Lragir.am News:
    http://www.lragir.am/engsrc/interview25648.html
    Published: 16:09:44 - 30/03/2012

    Interview with Ashot Manucharyan, member of the Karabakh Committee

    Mr. Manucharyan, before the party lists were in place, you proposed
    a new model, namely full representation of the public sector in the
    lists, which was not accepted, though the Heritage Party has partly
    involved the public sector. Is there a change in the period of the
    election campaign?

    There are minor changes. When a cancer patient has a headache caused
    by metastasis, you can give him a painkiller, and the pain will
    be relieved for a short period but the patient will die unless you
    cure the disease. Armenia is suffering from cancer, and the changes
    proposed by the parties, even if they are a positive tendency, such
    as the proposals of the Heritage, the Free Democrats or the Congress,
    their effect will be like the effect of the painkiller on the cancer
    patient. Metastasis comes from the Western civilization which is
    over because we already have another man thinking comprehensively,
    searching comprehensively, who wants to build his human world. We
    must change this otherwise we continue to think that our problem is
    that we are not like the United States where the president is not
    corrupt, at least there are no such allegations, their ministers do
    not seem to be corrupt, we have never heard about their oligarchs
    running over people with their SUVs, instead a few years ago we heard
    that hundreds of thousands of Americans became homeless because of
    the financial balloons in their financial system causing a disaster,
    which was named a financial and economic crisis. Who said that it was
    a financial and economic crisis? Who said that the Congressmen who
    are competent people failed to notice the balloons? Or were everyone
    under the pressure of some logic which does not allow the public
    administration system to reveal all the problems?

    After all, billions of people were robbed. Where is the money? There
    is ա doubt that this money goes to a group of people and people
    are victims. In other words, this is how it should be in a system of
    predators. There are winners who take everything, and losers who have
    nothing. The problem is that we want to be in this system and be one
    of its leaders. Progressive political systems are in search of this,
    while more regressive social systems, the greens and others, propose
    looking for another world. This is absurd. This search is commendable.

    Now the most important issue is what this world will be like.

    Which force is innovative and is not copying others?

    In fact, the party framework is outside the political framework. They
    are not doing politics, their activities in Armenia are limited to
    the distribution of economic opportunities, while politics is done by
    the intelligentsia, youth, NGOs (not all of them, most of them are in
    the same framework of distribution) Armenia must try to find its place.

    The mankind is in a quest, and why not, let it be born in Armenia. In
    Armenia there are minds, and Armenia has had such experience.

    What do you mean if it is not a civil rule, market economy, democracy,
    what should the new system be?

    Man has reached a point where its creative, mental, emotional and all
    the natures must become complete and serve this human world, man is
    the carrier of two worlds, the animal world, and the people's world.

    Now the abilities of the people's world serve his animal nature.

    Europe has departed from the European civilization which sought for
    the ways of development but now it serves the animal world, ignoring
    all the guidelines, principles, ideas of the European civilization.

    Now when they say let us go to Europe, join the European civilization,
    they should be mindful that these are controversial things.

    What should this creative person do now, how should this human
    person who serves human insults build his world? This person has
    already understood the necessity to create self-organization and
    self-governance systems.

    What is a self-organization and self-governance system?

    So far man has settled his issues through the state. The public
    administration bodies are somehow formed within the state, and people's
    issues are settled through these systems. Two problems occur.

    One is the estrangement of the public administration machine and
    people. This estrangement can be very deep, lead to a clash, in some
    cases people cannot feel it unless people respond to the system like
    Wall Street in the United States. Now the first issue is to eliminate
    this estrangement. We cannot have people manage our affairs and we
    have only one thing to do with governance - once in five years they
    give us a piece of paper to toss into the box and they will decide
    who will manage us. Then they see that we are full of doubt, so they
    say form groups of five and establish civil rule, discuss problems,
    such as the color of the fence, but they have nothing to do with what
    is happening behind the fence. The civil system merely decides the
    color of the fence, declares that it is a strategic issue, whereas
    the strategic issue is whether the fence is needed or not. Most
    importantly, whatever is behind the fence is outside the civil rule.

    Whenever I say that people must represent a function of complete
    governance it does not mean that everyone must attack the issue of
    governance and start solving it. The point is that the competence
    of the society is distributed among people, for instance, there is
    nobody whose competence means anything. There is no unnecessary person,
    everyone brings his or her contribution but of course there will be
    a hierarchy around governance issues.

    Mr. Manucharyan, the self-determined citizens are in Mashtots Park.

    Will they create self-organization and self-governance systems?

    "Self-determined" is a very important word because we use the words
    independence, self-determination every now and then, meanwhile we are
    in a fantastic dependent state, and we have never been more dependent
    before, and our independence, our flag, our president's car are all
    components of our independence, we don't have independence, and a
    person is able to understand what life it lives, why it is so.

    Dependence comes from having filled the head of man with false
    philosophy, they say man in independent and can do whatever he wants
    but the program is in his head, he is the robot, and dependence comes
    from this. Now we must tell this person you are a thinking being. We
    went through 88 when we had huge numbers of citizens who discussed
    different issues, ecology gave birth to the movement.

    Then man again became a robot?

    Then we made a mistake with people, we said the progressive world
    exists which has already found the formula, it turns out that if
    we hold elections, have parties, freedom of speech, etc, the other
    institutions will come and stand beside us. We stepped into this slough
    and we destroyed the self-determined man, the free man, and the real
    freedom of man, the creative spirit comes when the person gets rid of
    passion, instead we introduced today's freedom of passion of Europe. We
    were unable to understand the meaning of freedom. We replaced freedom
    from passions with freedom of passions. We want to integrate with
    a progressive place, Europe of Mozart, Hegel has nothing to do with
    Europe we are speaking about. Now Europe needs a force to return the
    European civilization to Europe. Armenia could do it, why not.

    Mr. Manucharyan, you are speaking about Armenia which we can hardly
    imagine in our reality. How is it possible to ensure this transition
    with a huge part of the society living with the logic of 5,000 to
    10,000 drams?

    I bring up the issue of three main forces operating in the body of
    our country which change and influence our life. One is the wholeness
    of our people who does not perform the extraordinary function of
    governance, the second part is a group which assumes this extraordinary
    function. These are the organizers. There are two types of organizers,
    the organizers of the false system, who were appointed as our kings,
    viceroys, petty kings by the global stealing system, and this system
    works, and the second type is those who stand up against them, such
    as Mashtots Park activists, other groups, who try to organize in one
    sphere or another. It is necessary to organize mind in any direction
    of life, and they are walking along this way and little by little will
    happen what happened in 1988, and all the spheres will be covered by
    these groups. But the organizers are those people who are not bound
    by the clichés of the world, they are seeking justice, often beauty,
    truth, truth is beautiful. They are acceptable anywhere, all the
    political parties, managers are ready to talk to them. The opposite is
    happening, the prime minister invites, they do not go, this is very
    important. We have also the wise people, to put it conventionally,
    these are the people who know where to go and why, or it seems
    to them that they know. In the soviet period, the intelligentsia
    assumed the role of the wise people, and in fact most of them were
    quite profound people but in the modern period the intelligentsia has
    been totally disgraced, they spread falsehood for the sake of wealth,
    money, they became fools they are traitors, they betray not only the
    country and people but also themselves and their conscience. We can
    see people gathered around famous people, intelligentsia who must be
    the guardians of people against the oligarchs. Wise people must speak
    the truth, they must be self-determined citizens, and they must not
    be the victim of ideas coming from the outside and they must lead
    people. This new idea is still to come.

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