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TURKEY THREATENS TO BAN MPS FROM GALLIPOLI CENTENARY OVER GENOCIDE VOTE
ABC Online, Australia
Aug 21 2013
7.30
By defence correspondent Michael Brissenden
The Turkish Government has threatened to ban all members of the NSW
Parliament from attending the centenary commemorations at Gallipoli
in 2015.
The move comes in response to motions passed unanimously by the
parliament in May officially recognising the Armenian genocide.
The notion of a genocide has long been a contentious point of debate
for Turks many of whom argue that it is a misrepresentation of history.
But many scholars and other eyewitness accounts, some from Anzac
Prisoners of War who were interned in empty Armenian churches,
witnessed the deportation and emptying out of Armenian villages and
support the genocide claims.
The pilgrimage to Gallipoli has become almost a rite of passage for
young Australians. It is, for many, about connecting with a national
identity.
But as they stand bleary eyed at the dawn service wrapped in the flag,
few would know that in 1915 as Australian soldiers were forging their
own national mythology on the beaches of Anzac Cove - elsewhere in
Turkey the Ottoman regime was conducting the wholesale removal and
destruction of another national identity.
That process of deportations, forced marches and executions began
in the area known as Anatolia just days before the ANZACS landed
at Gallipoli.
But many historians fear that as we approach the centenary of both
events, the Anzac legend and the Gallipoli industry that has sprung
up around it may obscure the other important commemoration.
People were 'systematically eliminated'
The Christian campaigner and NSW Upper House MP Fred Nile was the
force behind the unanimous motions passed by both houses of the
NSW Parliament.
He says the Armenians have no time for arguments about definitions
or the sensitivities of the modern Turkish state.
Mr Nile has just returned from a tour of Armenia with a cross-party
delegation.
"(The Ottoman Turks) just eliminated people systematically - community
by community, village by village", he says.
"In fact it's interesting that when Adolf Hitler planned the genocide
of the Jews there were some questions asked and he said himself
'Don't worry, who remembers the Armenian genocide?' Who remembers it?"
And genocide scholars also have no doubts.
Colin Tatz is a world renowned genocide expert who has spent his
entire career investigating racial extermination from Nazi Germany
through to the Australian frontier wars.
"There is categorical evidence that what happened between 1915 and
1922 was genocide of the Armenians, the Pontian Greeks and the Assyrian
communities to the extent of roughly half of their population".
Those individuals who show no respect to our history will not be
welcome in Turkey
Turkish Consul General Gulseren Celik
Scholars like professor Tatz put the final death toll at about
one-and-a-half million people and he says many Armenians have welcomed
the NSW Parliamentary motions.
Around the world Turkish efforts to prevent any official recognition
of genocide have been remarkably successful.
Only 21 countries have passed a resolution to that effect. The British
government and the United States government have not, although 43 US
states have, and neither has the Australian Government.
The Turkish Consul General Gulseren Celik says she is confident the
Federal Parliament has no intention of following what she describes
as the "outrageous" NSW motions.
"We expect Australians to show the same kind of respect that we have
shown to their history and their ancestry," she said.
"Those individuals who show no respect to our history will not be
welcome in Turkey."
Evidence of Anzac PoWs dismissed as a 'fabrication'
The Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu has hit back in a press
release.
"These persons who try to damage the spirit of Canakkle/Gallipoli
will also not have their place in the Canakkale ceremonies where we
commemorate our sons lying side by side in our soil," he said.
The local council at Gallipoli has also made it clear the critics
will not be welcome at the centenary celebrations in 2015.
"We announce to the public that we will not forgive those who are
behind these decisions and that we don't want to see them in Canakkale
anymore," it said.
When asked by the ABC if this meant that NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell,
and indeed the entire NSW Parliament would not be given visas to
attend the centenary commemorations, Gulseren Celik replied, "yes".
In her letter to the NSW Parliament Ms Celik dismissed the evidence
of Anzac PoWs as a fabrication.
"As we near the centenary of the Gallipoli Campaign the proponents of
the so-called genocide will continue their quest to try to hijack the
very special bond that exists between our two countries by fabricating
that Anzac soldiers who were PoW were witnesses to these so-called
allegations," she said.
The link between the Anzacs, Gallipoli and the Armenian genocide is a
sensitive area for all, wrapped as it is in the legend of two nations
who both cling to the significance that this one military campaign
has had on their national identities.
Turkish officials are frequent visitors to the Australian war memorial,
for instance, and Armenian Australians have long been critical of
the influence they believe the Turks have had on the way the memorial
has depicted the Australian World War I experience.
World War I galleries make little mention of genocide
World War I galleries are currently being renovated but in the past
public exhibitions glossed over the Armenian experience with no
mention of genocide.
Although some information has been posted on the War Memorial's
website, it has shied away from the events, saying that at this stage
they will not be including this story in the new galleries as the World
War I gallery space is limited and only so many stories can be told.
But World War I historians, such as Peter Stanley who worked for many
years at the War Memorial, say 2015 should be an occasion that allows
both countries to be bigger than their national self interest.
"I would expect that it would be covered in proportion by an Australian
institution that is explaining to us the First World War as a whole,"
he said.
"I think the Turks are expecting that the friendship we forged through
Gallipoli, which is genuine, is enough to paper over our knowledge
of the Armenian genocide but the fact of the matter is it isn't.
"Australians want to know the truth about the First World War and
the truth about the Great War is that a million-and-half Armenians
died at the hands of the Ottoman Empire."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/turkey-threatens-nsw-parliament-over-armenian-genocide-vote/4903444
ABC Online, Australia
Aug 21 2013
7.30
By defence correspondent Michael Brissenden
The Turkish Government has threatened to ban all members of the NSW
Parliament from attending the centenary commemorations at Gallipoli
in 2015.
The move comes in response to motions passed unanimously by the
parliament in May officially recognising the Armenian genocide.
The notion of a genocide has long been a contentious point of debate
for Turks many of whom argue that it is a misrepresentation of history.
But many scholars and other eyewitness accounts, some from Anzac
Prisoners of War who were interned in empty Armenian churches,
witnessed the deportation and emptying out of Armenian villages and
support the genocide claims.
The pilgrimage to Gallipoli has become almost a rite of passage for
young Australians. It is, for many, about connecting with a national
identity.
But as they stand bleary eyed at the dawn service wrapped in the flag,
few would know that in 1915 as Australian soldiers were forging their
own national mythology on the beaches of Anzac Cove - elsewhere in
Turkey the Ottoman regime was conducting the wholesale removal and
destruction of another national identity.
That process of deportations, forced marches and executions began
in the area known as Anatolia just days before the ANZACS landed
at Gallipoli.
But many historians fear that as we approach the centenary of both
events, the Anzac legend and the Gallipoli industry that has sprung
up around it may obscure the other important commemoration.
People were 'systematically eliminated'
The Christian campaigner and NSW Upper House MP Fred Nile was the
force behind the unanimous motions passed by both houses of the
NSW Parliament.
He says the Armenians have no time for arguments about definitions
or the sensitivities of the modern Turkish state.
Mr Nile has just returned from a tour of Armenia with a cross-party
delegation.
"(The Ottoman Turks) just eliminated people systematically - community
by community, village by village", he says.
"In fact it's interesting that when Adolf Hitler planned the genocide
of the Jews there were some questions asked and he said himself
'Don't worry, who remembers the Armenian genocide?' Who remembers it?"
And genocide scholars also have no doubts.
Colin Tatz is a world renowned genocide expert who has spent his
entire career investigating racial extermination from Nazi Germany
through to the Australian frontier wars.
"There is categorical evidence that what happened between 1915 and
1922 was genocide of the Armenians, the Pontian Greeks and the Assyrian
communities to the extent of roughly half of their population".
Those individuals who show no respect to our history will not be
welcome in Turkey
Turkish Consul General Gulseren Celik
Scholars like professor Tatz put the final death toll at about
one-and-a-half million people and he says many Armenians have welcomed
the NSW Parliamentary motions.
Around the world Turkish efforts to prevent any official recognition
of genocide have been remarkably successful.
Only 21 countries have passed a resolution to that effect. The British
government and the United States government have not, although 43 US
states have, and neither has the Australian Government.
The Turkish Consul General Gulseren Celik says she is confident the
Federal Parliament has no intention of following what she describes
as the "outrageous" NSW motions.
"We expect Australians to show the same kind of respect that we have
shown to their history and their ancestry," she said.
"Those individuals who show no respect to our history will not be
welcome in Turkey."
Evidence of Anzac PoWs dismissed as a 'fabrication'
The Turkish foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu has hit back in a press
release.
"These persons who try to damage the spirit of Canakkle/Gallipoli
will also not have their place in the Canakkale ceremonies where we
commemorate our sons lying side by side in our soil," he said.
The local council at Gallipoli has also made it clear the critics
will not be welcome at the centenary celebrations in 2015.
"We announce to the public that we will not forgive those who are
behind these decisions and that we don't want to see them in Canakkale
anymore," it said.
When asked by the ABC if this meant that NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell,
and indeed the entire NSW Parliament would not be given visas to
attend the centenary commemorations, Gulseren Celik replied, "yes".
In her letter to the NSW Parliament Ms Celik dismissed the evidence
of Anzac PoWs as a fabrication.
"As we near the centenary of the Gallipoli Campaign the proponents of
the so-called genocide will continue their quest to try to hijack the
very special bond that exists between our two countries by fabricating
that Anzac soldiers who were PoW were witnesses to these so-called
allegations," she said.
The link between the Anzacs, Gallipoli and the Armenian genocide is a
sensitive area for all, wrapped as it is in the legend of two nations
who both cling to the significance that this one military campaign
has had on their national identities.
Turkish officials are frequent visitors to the Australian war memorial,
for instance, and Armenian Australians have long been critical of
the influence they believe the Turks have had on the way the memorial
has depicted the Australian World War I experience.
World War I galleries make little mention of genocide
World War I galleries are currently being renovated but in the past
public exhibitions glossed over the Armenian experience with no
mention of genocide.
Although some information has been posted on the War Memorial's
website, it has shied away from the events, saying that at this stage
they will not be including this story in the new galleries as the World
War I gallery space is limited and only so many stories can be told.
But World War I historians, such as Peter Stanley who worked for many
years at the War Memorial, say 2015 should be an occasion that allows
both countries to be bigger than their national self interest.
"I would expect that it would be covered in proportion by an Australian
institution that is explaining to us the First World War as a whole,"
he said.
"I think the Turks are expecting that the friendship we forged through
Gallipoli, which is genuine, is enough to paper over our knowledge
of the Armenian genocide but the fact of the matter is it isn't.
"Australians want to know the truth about the First World War and
the truth about the Great War is that a million-and-half Armenians
died at the hands of the Ottoman Empire."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/turkey-threatens-nsw-parliament-over-armenian-genocide-vote/4903444