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http://www.panorama.am/en/politics/2013/09/06/us-syria-crisis/
09:27 06/09/2013 » INTERVIEWS
Press TV has talked with Kenneth O~RKeefe, a former US marine and
war veteran from London, to shed more light on the hawkish position
of the Western countries and their Persian Gulf allies against Syria.
- Ken O~RKeefe, let us talk about the US military action. It is quite
confusing; it went from a limited strike, initially said to last for
24 to 48 hours, those were some of the statements coming from Obama,
and now it seems that like it is an open-ended 90-day timetable.
What is your reading into that? General Dempsey saying it is not
bound to an immediate attack, it could be done in days or weeks from
now. It almost sounds like that this is much wider in scope than
initially introduced.
- Well, we have to have some semblance of understanding of what is
happening here and the idea that America would strike, a so-called
limited strike, is really quite ridiculous.
The ultimate endgame here is to get to Iran and the only way to
realistically get to Iran is to eliminate Syria as a threat because
if there is a war on Iran, Syria will also be able to attack Israel,
its nemesis, in tandem with Iran and this is the important aspect of
eliminating Syria as a tactical threat.
So to say that there are going to be limited strikes is really just
an insult to our intelligence yet again, ultimately this is really
begging the third world war and this is not a joke and everyone who
is paying attention knows this.
So, every war supposedly is going to start off with limited action,
but it will accelerate into a full-scale war and potentially into a
third world war and it would be foolish to think otherwise.
- Ken O~RKeefe, one thing that is very surprising about all of this
is..., again I am going to the military buildup that has occurred,
not to mention obviously what Syria has in its arsenal in terms of
weaponry, in terms of their airpower, and that is Israel~Rs security.
Why would ..., what appears to be US~R military attack that is going
to endanger that by retaliatory measures that perhaps might come from
Syria; we cannot forget what, and I am going to quote what the Syrian
Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Miqdad has said that we will not give
[in to attack threats] even if there was world war three.
- Yea, I think that it is really important for us to see the big
picture here and really understand what is going on. The powers that
be, which I will bring back to the bankers, those that control the
issuance of money and these are the real powers, that is real power,
as Baron Rothschild said in the 1800, I care not what government is
in power as long as I print the money.
If you want to know what power is, you need to know who controls the
money supply and those people who control the money supply, control the
politicians, they control the corporations, they control the mainstream
media; they control every aspect of human society with rare exceptions.
The countries that we see being attacked right now, are those countries
that are not bought and paid for by the banksters. So, Iran and Syria,
Venezuela was also being targeted for getting out of the IMF debt,
Libya was also part of this game, Iraq was also part of this game. We
see a pattern here of who is attacked.
Only those countries which are not part of the bankster system are
the ones that are targeted and this is very important for the rest
of the world, especially those of us in the West, who are being told
by our ... politicians that there is no money for social services,
that we need to increase tuition fees that pensioners, who work
their whole lives cannot afford even to pay for gas and die from
cold because the heating cannot be turned on in their homes, there
is no money for them but we can bail out the bankers to the tune of
trillions and we can continue ceaseless wars.
This is the big picture, this is the reality and this gentleman in
the United States is just absolutely delusional or he is bought and
paid for, because the bottom line is, this is going to turn into a
war which banksters relish because the banksters make tons of money
off of war. In fact, it is the best profit-making business of all
and even more importantly it keeps us, people, divided.
As long as we are fighting each other, we will not focus on who the
real criminal and psychopaths are; and the ones at the top of pyramid,
specifically the banksters, and all of the .... that work for them.
- Interesting point, Ken O~RKeefe go ahead!
- I absolutely have no problem whatsoever accepting that the corruption
that comes from bankster system, the financial fraud that is usury,
debt-based money being issued by private bankers, it pervades every
aspect of human society including the Russian society, there is no
question about that.
However, Russia is not going around the world setting up military
bases to the tune of over a thousand bases and attacking anywhere and
anything that is not down with the international bankster program;
that is the United States, that is doing that and that brings us back
to the real issue here as well with regards to the so-called use of
chemical weapons by the Assad regime.
This is absolutely insane to even be talking about this, because if
there is one nation on this planet that has no right, whatsoever,
to point the finger at anybody for the use of weapons of mass
destruction and including the chemical weapons, it is the United
States because as we know with recent reports that have been levied
from CIA, declassified reports about the CIA, we knew full well that
our attack dog Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons against
innocent people including the Kurds, innocent people in small cities
in Iran and hitting military personnel in Iran to the tune of tons
and tons and tons of Tabun, Sarin and mustard gas and guess what
we did? The United States, when our attack dog (Saddam Hussein) was
attacking Iran mercilessly with these weapons, not only we did not
stop him [but also] we continued to give him logistical support and
we provided the means for him to continue these attacks.
So, we have no problem whatsoever with using chemical weapons, we
used white phosphorus in Fallujah, we also used ungodly amounts of
Agent Orange in Vietnam. There are still people dying from cancers
from those chemicals. Birth defects in Fallujah have gone to the roofs.
So, the United States is in, absolutely, no position at all to be
talking about the use of weapons of mass destruction or chemical
weapons and it is beggar~Rs belief that anybody could stand up and
put forward the position of the United States that it is in any kind
of moral position or authority to talk about this.
If anyone needs to be punished, it is not the United States punishing
somebody else. It is the entire world which needs to punish the United
States for its continued act of aggression and its state-sponsored
terrorism that has now killed a million or two million people in
Iraq and continues to destroy lives mercilessly. It is the United
States of America, Israel and Britain, which are the real problem,
not Iran and not Syria.
[In response to Stewart Stogel]: I served three years in the [US]
military and if you want to take it in that direction I have no problem
answering any question about my time in service including my combat
service in the Marine Corps.
How much time have you served in the military? And have you been
involved in a war?
[In response to Stewart Stogel]: No, I was a brainwashed idiot like so
many of us who have been indoctrinated for years and years pledging
allegiance to the flag with liberty and justice for all. Saying that
every single day ends up making you rather stupid and I did not know
the truth about my country when I was 19 years old, I was an ignorant
kid and like so many other Americans I did not realize that until later
but thank God, I actually woke up at some point and realized the truth.
- Do you agree with that (Stewart Stogel~Rs comments) Ken O~RKeefe?
- Absolutely not! If a nation from halfway around the world that
had a history of violent aggressive acts, including state-sponsored
terrorism were banging down the doors of the United States or Britain
and threatening us with attacks, with bombings and so on and so forth,
we would have every right to defend ourselves with whatever means
we had. The people of Syria are voluntarily subjecting themselves
to a potential harm and in fact a potential death because they know
that the fall of the Assad government and the destruction of Syria,
as designed by those who fantasize about the Greater Israel Project,
who want to destabilize and create sectarian divide and merciless
killing for generations to come, that they have to do everything they
can to defend their country and the only thing they really have,
many of them, is their bodies. So, they are voluntarily submitting
to that and you have to admire their strength and courage in doing so.
What I would also say is that the tactic of using human shields,
which is something that is close to my heart since I initiated the
Human Shield Action to Iraq back in 2002, 2003, is that the importance
of human shields... , if indeed they are used, is that they must be
deployed to places that are supposed to be protected by the Geneva
Convention.
So, if what this gentleman says is true, which is not, but let us say
that it is true and they only intend to attack military sites, unlike
what they did in Iraq, which is they attacked all sorts of civilian
sites such as water treatment facilities and electrical power plants,
food storage sites; if human shields are deployed to sites that are
supposed to be protected by the Geneva Convention and those sites are
attacked by the United States, then let it be known first and foremost
and forever that the United States is in fact nothing more than a war
criminal who has attacked sites that are critical to the civilian
population, which punishes not Bashar al-Assad but the civilians,
women and children who will die from dysentery and other diseases,
waterborne carrying diseases and all sorts of other nonsense. This
is the truth. The United States will attack the infrastructure just
as it did with Iraq, if we are going to recall it back, in 2002,
2003 in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq.
They also said, Oh! We do not intend to attack the infrastructure!
That was a lie. Everything that comes out of the mouth of people like
John Kerry and Barack Obama and every other stooge that came before
them, is a lie.
How do you know they are lying? They open their mouth and you know
that they are lying.
- And Ken O~RKeefe, Stewart Stogel talks about how the US is doing the
dirty work ..., it was the al-Qaeda insurgents that are related to the
US in terms of the backing from the US doing their dirty work. Your
final comments?
- Well, let us be clear about this. We have no doubt that al-Qaeda
associates, al-Nusrah Front, who were caught with two kilos of Sarin
gas in Turkey, that is not Syria reporting that, that is the Turks
and we know that we have provided material support to the so-called
rebels in Syria, we also know that there are accusations that Israel
provided the Sarin gas to Prince Bandar (of Saudi Arabia), Bandar Bush
as he is known, who delivered those chemicals to the so-called rebels
in Ghouta for the recent massacre. That is the rebels themselves who
were saying that.
So, if that be true, and I believe it is, Barack Obama has provided
material support to al-Qaeda and this whole war on terror that we
supposedly fought for the last 12 years, is nothing more than a farce
used to justify military aggression by the United States at the behest
of the banksters. That is my assessment of what is happening and I
can defend it with more time if I had it.
Source: Panorama.am
http://www.panorama.am/en/politics/2013/09/06/us-syria-crisis/
09:27 06/09/2013 » INTERVIEWS
Press TV has talked with Kenneth O~RKeefe, a former US marine and
war veteran from London, to shed more light on the hawkish position
of the Western countries and their Persian Gulf allies against Syria.
- Ken O~RKeefe, let us talk about the US military action. It is quite
confusing; it went from a limited strike, initially said to last for
24 to 48 hours, those were some of the statements coming from Obama,
and now it seems that like it is an open-ended 90-day timetable.
What is your reading into that? General Dempsey saying it is not
bound to an immediate attack, it could be done in days or weeks from
now. It almost sounds like that this is much wider in scope than
initially introduced.
- Well, we have to have some semblance of understanding of what is
happening here and the idea that America would strike, a so-called
limited strike, is really quite ridiculous.
The ultimate endgame here is to get to Iran and the only way to
realistically get to Iran is to eliminate Syria as a threat because
if there is a war on Iran, Syria will also be able to attack Israel,
its nemesis, in tandem with Iran and this is the important aspect of
eliminating Syria as a tactical threat.
So to say that there are going to be limited strikes is really just
an insult to our intelligence yet again, ultimately this is really
begging the third world war and this is not a joke and everyone who
is paying attention knows this.
So, every war supposedly is going to start off with limited action,
but it will accelerate into a full-scale war and potentially into a
third world war and it would be foolish to think otherwise.
- Ken O~RKeefe, one thing that is very surprising about all of this
is..., again I am going to the military buildup that has occurred,
not to mention obviously what Syria has in its arsenal in terms of
weaponry, in terms of their airpower, and that is Israel~Rs security.
Why would ..., what appears to be US~R military attack that is going
to endanger that by retaliatory measures that perhaps might come from
Syria; we cannot forget what, and I am going to quote what the Syrian
Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Miqdad has said that we will not give
[in to attack threats] even if there was world war three.
- Yea, I think that it is really important for us to see the big
picture here and really understand what is going on. The powers that
be, which I will bring back to the bankers, those that control the
issuance of money and these are the real powers, that is real power,
as Baron Rothschild said in the 1800, I care not what government is
in power as long as I print the money.
If you want to know what power is, you need to know who controls the
money supply and those people who control the money supply, control the
politicians, they control the corporations, they control the mainstream
media; they control every aspect of human society with rare exceptions.
The countries that we see being attacked right now, are those countries
that are not bought and paid for by the banksters. So, Iran and Syria,
Venezuela was also being targeted for getting out of the IMF debt,
Libya was also part of this game, Iraq was also part of this game. We
see a pattern here of who is attacked.
Only those countries which are not part of the bankster system are
the ones that are targeted and this is very important for the rest
of the world, especially those of us in the West, who are being told
by our ... politicians that there is no money for social services,
that we need to increase tuition fees that pensioners, who work
their whole lives cannot afford even to pay for gas and die from
cold because the heating cannot be turned on in their homes, there
is no money for them but we can bail out the bankers to the tune of
trillions and we can continue ceaseless wars.
This is the big picture, this is the reality and this gentleman in
the United States is just absolutely delusional or he is bought and
paid for, because the bottom line is, this is going to turn into a
war which banksters relish because the banksters make tons of money
off of war. In fact, it is the best profit-making business of all
and even more importantly it keeps us, people, divided.
As long as we are fighting each other, we will not focus on who the
real criminal and psychopaths are; and the ones at the top of pyramid,
specifically the banksters, and all of the .... that work for them.
- Interesting point, Ken O~RKeefe go ahead!
- I absolutely have no problem whatsoever accepting that the corruption
that comes from bankster system, the financial fraud that is usury,
debt-based money being issued by private bankers, it pervades every
aspect of human society including the Russian society, there is no
question about that.
However, Russia is not going around the world setting up military
bases to the tune of over a thousand bases and attacking anywhere and
anything that is not down with the international bankster program;
that is the United States, that is doing that and that brings us back
to the real issue here as well with regards to the so-called use of
chemical weapons by the Assad regime.
This is absolutely insane to even be talking about this, because if
there is one nation on this planet that has no right, whatsoever,
to point the finger at anybody for the use of weapons of mass
destruction and including the chemical weapons, it is the United
States because as we know with recent reports that have been levied
from CIA, declassified reports about the CIA, we knew full well that
our attack dog Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons against
innocent people including the Kurds, innocent people in small cities
in Iran and hitting military personnel in Iran to the tune of tons
and tons and tons of Tabun, Sarin and mustard gas and guess what
we did? The United States, when our attack dog (Saddam Hussein) was
attacking Iran mercilessly with these weapons, not only we did not
stop him [but also] we continued to give him logistical support and
we provided the means for him to continue these attacks.
So, we have no problem whatsoever with using chemical weapons, we
used white phosphorus in Fallujah, we also used ungodly amounts of
Agent Orange in Vietnam. There are still people dying from cancers
from those chemicals. Birth defects in Fallujah have gone to the roofs.
So, the United States is in, absolutely, no position at all to be
talking about the use of weapons of mass destruction or chemical
weapons and it is beggar~Rs belief that anybody could stand up and
put forward the position of the United States that it is in any kind
of moral position or authority to talk about this.
If anyone needs to be punished, it is not the United States punishing
somebody else. It is the entire world which needs to punish the United
States for its continued act of aggression and its state-sponsored
terrorism that has now killed a million or two million people in
Iraq and continues to destroy lives mercilessly. It is the United
States of America, Israel and Britain, which are the real problem,
not Iran and not Syria.
[In response to Stewart Stogel]: I served three years in the [US]
military and if you want to take it in that direction I have no problem
answering any question about my time in service including my combat
service in the Marine Corps.
How much time have you served in the military? And have you been
involved in a war?
[In response to Stewart Stogel]: No, I was a brainwashed idiot like so
many of us who have been indoctrinated for years and years pledging
allegiance to the flag with liberty and justice for all. Saying that
every single day ends up making you rather stupid and I did not know
the truth about my country when I was 19 years old, I was an ignorant
kid and like so many other Americans I did not realize that until later
but thank God, I actually woke up at some point and realized the truth.
- Do you agree with that (Stewart Stogel~Rs comments) Ken O~RKeefe?
- Absolutely not! If a nation from halfway around the world that
had a history of violent aggressive acts, including state-sponsored
terrorism were banging down the doors of the United States or Britain
and threatening us with attacks, with bombings and so on and so forth,
we would have every right to defend ourselves with whatever means
we had. The people of Syria are voluntarily subjecting themselves
to a potential harm and in fact a potential death because they know
that the fall of the Assad government and the destruction of Syria,
as designed by those who fantasize about the Greater Israel Project,
who want to destabilize and create sectarian divide and merciless
killing for generations to come, that they have to do everything they
can to defend their country and the only thing they really have,
many of them, is their bodies. So, they are voluntarily submitting
to that and you have to admire their strength and courage in doing so.
What I would also say is that the tactic of using human shields,
which is something that is close to my heart since I initiated the
Human Shield Action to Iraq back in 2002, 2003, is that the importance
of human shields... , if indeed they are used, is that they must be
deployed to places that are supposed to be protected by the Geneva
Convention.
So, if what this gentleman says is true, which is not, but let us say
that it is true and they only intend to attack military sites, unlike
what they did in Iraq, which is they attacked all sorts of civilian
sites such as water treatment facilities and electrical power plants,
food storage sites; if human shields are deployed to sites that are
supposed to be protected by the Geneva Convention and those sites are
attacked by the United States, then let it be known first and foremost
and forever that the United States is in fact nothing more than a war
criminal who has attacked sites that are critical to the civilian
population, which punishes not Bashar al-Assad but the civilians,
women and children who will die from dysentery and other diseases,
waterborne carrying diseases and all sorts of other nonsense. This
is the truth. The United States will attack the infrastructure just
as it did with Iraq, if we are going to recall it back, in 2002,
2003 in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq.
They also said, Oh! We do not intend to attack the infrastructure!
That was a lie. Everything that comes out of the mouth of people like
John Kerry and Barack Obama and every other stooge that came before
them, is a lie.
How do you know they are lying? They open their mouth and you know
that they are lying.
- And Ken O~RKeefe, Stewart Stogel talks about how the US is doing the
dirty work ..., it was the al-Qaeda insurgents that are related to the
US in terms of the backing from the US doing their dirty work. Your
final comments?
- Well, let us be clear about this. We have no doubt that al-Qaeda
associates, al-Nusrah Front, who were caught with two kilos of Sarin
gas in Turkey, that is not Syria reporting that, that is the Turks
and we know that we have provided material support to the so-called
rebels in Syria, we also know that there are accusations that Israel
provided the Sarin gas to Prince Bandar (of Saudi Arabia), Bandar Bush
as he is known, who delivered those chemicals to the so-called rebels
in Ghouta for the recent massacre. That is the rebels themselves who
were saying that.
So, if that be true, and I believe it is, Barack Obama has provided
material support to al-Qaeda and this whole war on terror that we
supposedly fought for the last 12 years, is nothing more than a farce
used to justify military aggression by the United States at the behest
of the banksters. That is my assessment of what is happening and I
can defend it with more time if I had it.
Source: Panorama.am