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    SHAPING THE WORLD AT VERSAILLES: A Q&A WITH THE AUTHOR OF A SHATTERED PEACE
    By Melissa Lafsky

    New York Times Blogs, NY
    http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/ shaping-the-world-at-versailles-a-qa-with-the-auth or-of-a-shattered-peace/
    Dec 18 2007

    Any history book will give you a chapter on the Treaty of Versailles,
    during which delegates from around the world gathered in France
    to hammer out peace terms following World War I. The men (and
    occasional woman) who negotiated the outcome may have had their own
    individual and national agendas, but their decisions arguably set
    the stage for decades of international socio and economic turmoil,
    culminating in events like Vietnam, the war in the Balkans, and the
    Palestinian-Israeli conflict. In his new book, A Shattered Peace,
    Forbes.com executive editor David Andelman tracks in extraordinary
    depth what happened behind the scenes during the Versailles
    negotiations, and examines how the Treaty helped shape the modern
    international climate. Andelman agreed to answer our questions about
    his book.

    Q: You argue that oversights and errors in the Treaty contributed
    directly to conflicts from Vietnam to the Cold War, and continue to
    profoundly impact today's international relations. How did it create
    such strong ripple effects, and how has its influence continued almost
    a century later?

    A: The diplomats and politicians who became architects of the Treaty
    of Versailles came to Paris in 1919 with the stated goal of remaking
    the world and, while they were in session, constituted themselves as
    the world's government. With this end, and not being challenged in
    granting themselves this unprecedented power, they proceeded to redraw
    the boundaries and redistribute the populations of vast stretches
    of the planet. With a few narrow exceptions, these boundaries and
    the new nations they created, all but haphazardly, continue to the be
    those we find today -- territories that we are all too often defending
    at gunpoint.

    Because of the nature of these new states -- all heterogeneous and,
    above all, weak, created in the image of the Western nations that gave
    them life -- they became (quite intentionally) heavily dependent on
    these wealthy and more powerful countries which had deep interests
    in making sure that they survived by whatever means necessary.

    The result is that only now, as I demonstrate in A Shattered Peace,
    these nations created in Paris in 1919 are beginning to come apart --
    often violently. The fault lines that existed when they were founded,
    but have been hidden for nearly a century, are splitting open as
    powerful internal forces of ethnicity, language, and religion began
    surfacing, as well as powerful economic imperatives.

    Q: What were the Treaty's biggest mistakes? How would the international
    landscape be different now if they hadn't been made?

    A: There were a host of colossal errors in fact and judgment made at
    the Paris Peace Conference that gave birth to this shattered peace.

    First there was the fissure between the idealism of the American
    President Woodrow Wilson and the self-centered hubris of British
    Prime Minister David Lloyd George and French Prime Minister Georges
    Clemenceau. Wilson sought gamely, but, in the end, fatally, to persuade
    his peers that the only viable world organization would be to allow
    nations and people to determine their own fate and their own system of
    government. Lloyd George and Clemenceau, while playing lip service to
    this fine ideal, had no intention of doing anything of the kind. Their
    goal was to create a world in their image that they could manipulate,
    and that would allow each leader to continue controlling the global
    empires he had possessed when he'd entered the war.

    The European Allies failed to understand, however, that this old
    world order had already come apart economically, politically, and
    diplomatically, leaving a whole new global organization with new and
    different players. They also failed to understand the power of the
    ethnic minorities they were shuffling around like chess pieces.

    Had the right of self-determination indeed been respected, and had
    nations been created for the good of their inhabitants rather than the
    convenience of the major powers, it is very likely that the powerful
    centrifugal forces of religions and nationalities that today are
    spinning the world apart could have been tamed. Palestinians and
    Jews, each with their own homeland, could have learned to live --
    and prosper -- side by side, as could have Kurds, Shiites, and Sunnis;
    and Croats, Serbs, and Kosovars.

    The most costly errors, however, came when the peacemakers ignored so
    many of those who came to plead their case in Paris. Nguyen Tat Thanh,
    serving as a busboy at the Ritz Hotel, came to plead the case for
    independence for his people in Indochina. Given the brushoff by the
    western powers, he turned Communist, went off to Paris, and decades
    later took the nom-de-guerre Ho Chi Minh. China's demands to keep
    Japan at bay were also ignored. The demonstrations that swept China
    gave rise to the Chinese Communist Party and brought to power a young
    militant named Mao Tse-Tung. Japan's victory gave new strength to that
    nation's military leadership, which a quarter century later turned
    their guns on the U.S., bringing America into the Second World War.

    Q: What effect did the Treaty have on the Western economy? Eastern?

    A: The Treaty had a powerful on impact on the economies of both
    West and East. While it exacted severe economic and territorial
    penalties on the defeated Central Powers -- especially Germany, but
    also Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, and the entire Ottoman Empire - it
    also did little to repair the economic structures of the victorious
    nations of Britain, France, and Italy, as well as smaller victims
    like Belgium. The war did leave the U.S. as the one Western economy
    all but untouched, and indeed even more prosperous than before the
    fighting began.

    The reparations extracted from Germany, in particular, had a
    catastrophic impact far beyond that nation's borders. Designed
    by Clemenceau and Lloyd George to make certain that Germany never
    rose again as a power to challenge France or Britain, the system of
    reparations was destructive to the entire fabric of trade and industry
    across the continent. It laid the basis for the hyper-inflation that
    marked the post-war Weimar republic in Germany, and the eventual
    depression that engulfed much of the Western world.

    For that reason, primarily, it helped lay the basis for the rise of
    Hitler and the outbreak of the Second World War.

    In the East, the economy of Japan, one of the victorious Allied
    powers in the First World War, was dominant throughout the region,
    and the Treaty assured the continued fragmentation and hegemony of
    Japan over China and Korea, as well as its access to many of the
    riches of Siberia. The rights Japan retained in China paved the way
    for the continued impoverishment of the latter, and the ability of
    the former to build a powerful military machine that would turn on
    the West, and especially the U.S., in World War II. As I trace in my
    book, the provisions of the Treaty assured that it would take decades
    for China, with its vast wealth of natural resources and population,
    to resume its leadership role as the fastest growing economy in Asia.

    Q: What role did the Middle East play during the negotiations? How did
    the European powers view Muslim regions, and how did the decisions made
    about the Middle East affect the state of diplomatic relations today?

    A: The Middle East was an important sideshow to the main Paris
    Peace Conference, since many of the outlines of the region had been
    predetermined by a string of secret pacts during the war. And few
    of the Paris peacemakers understood the critical strategic role that
    the Middle East would play in the future.

    The Middle East was of far greater importance to the European powers
    than to the U.S. The region was the principal transit route from the
    Mediterranean to the British colonies of the sub-Continent that would
    become India and Pakistan, and the French possessions in Indochina.

    Oil was not yet the major force of economics and geopolitics that it
    would become later. World War I was the first major conflict to be
    fought with any contribution from the internal combustion engine. And
    few thought the U.S. would ever need more oil than could be pumped
    out of Texas.

    Above all, none of the principal negotiators, or their top advisers,
    had any notion of the deep passions and bitter hostilities that
    divided the various tribes and nationalities in the former Ottoman
    territories. The head of the Middle East committee of the Inquiry,
    the think-tank Wilson brought with him to Paris, was a Columbia
    professor, William Westermann, who was an expert on the Crusades. His
    deep understanding of the region ended sometime before the year 1300.

    So when the negotiators created what would become the nations of Iraq,
    Syria, Lebanon, and Israel (then known as Palestine), they had no
    conception of the forces they had set in motion, which I trace in
    some detail in my book. The combinations they engineered of Sunni,
    Shiite, and Kurd, and Palestinian and Jew, evolved quickly into a
    volatile stew pot of heterogeneous nations where one faction would
    dominate others for decades, and with pernicious consequences.

    Today, only by understanding how this all began can we conceive of
    unraveling these creations and returning to a simpler, and hopefully
    more peaceful region.

    Q: Who, besides the major historical figures, were the biggest economic
    players behind the scenes during the negotiations?

    A: Curiously, the single dominant economic figure at the Paris Peace
    Conference was an individual who left in the middle, and who predicted
    from the start that its economic provisions would be catastrophic
    for the future of peace and prosperity, particularly in Europe. John
    Maynard Keynes, a Cambridge University don, was a 35-year-old economic
    adviser on the British delegation -- a brilliant member of the famed
    Bloomsbury Group that also included Virginia Woolf, her eventual
    lover Vita Sackville-West, and Vita's husband, the young diplomat
    Harold Nicholson, who was also at Paris and was himself to become
    deeply disillusioned over the outcome of the negotiations.

    Keynes believed the system of reparations that was being discussed was
    confiscatory and destructive, finally bolting from the conference
    before the end to write his landmark treatise, The Economic
    Consequences of the Peace, which became a runaway best-seller on both
    sides of the Atlantic and forced Lloyd George to concede that Keynes
    was right, while the Treaty and its negotiators were wrong.

    There were many other fascinating young men who continued to serve as
    behind-the scenes negotiators and advisers on the economic aspects of
    the Treaty. The American delegation included John Foster Dulles (whose
    brother, Allen, was a top aide to their uncle, U.S. Secretary of State
    Robert Lansing), a 30-year-old attorney with the law firm Sullivan &
    Cromwell; Norman Davis, a wealthy Tennessee gentleman who'd made his
    fortune trading with Cuba, and Thomas Lamont, who looked after the
    interests of the Morgan Bank, Wall Street and the American economy,
    in that order. All warned of the folly of bankrupting Germany.

    On the French delegation there was Louis Loucheur, a brilliant
    grand-ecole graduate, who would continue to look after French interests
    for decades, even as his body became consumed by a degenerative
    disease and he took first to canes, then a wheelchair.

    For a more detailed discussion of this topic, see here.

    Q: What was the most surprising fact you learned about the Treaty?

    A: It's difficult to single out a single surprise from this vast
    morass of ignorance, naivete, and cupidity that constituted the Peace
    Conference and the Treaty it spawned. But I would have to say the
    biggest surprise was the profound disdain exhibited by the leaders of
    France and Britain for President Wilson and his moral compass. None of
    these statesmen had any interest whatsoever in the creation of a League
    of Nations (similar to our United Nations today) that was so central
    to Wilson's sense of how the peace they were constructing could make
    the Great War that had just ended the last global conflict. But the
    European victors were quite cynically prepared to play on Wilson's
    desire to win Allied approval of a League. Their strategy was to
    force him to bargain away self-determination and freedom for half the
    world, one nation at a time -- at each turn threatening to withhold
    their approval of a League of Nations if Wilson refused to give in
    to their demands.

    Toward the end of the Peace Conference, a small group of the top
    British negotiators went for a picnic in one of the forests that
    surrounded Paris. As they relaxed and laughed among themselves, one
    said to his colleagues, "Well we really picked Wilson's pockets clean,
    didn't we ... down to the pocket lint."

    Q: What was the biggest hidden agenda that the U.S. had during the
    meetings? In what area did the U.S. have the biggest impact?

    A: The hidden agendas were really brought to Paris by Britain, France,
    and Japan, rather than the U.S. If the U.S. brought one such agenda,
    which did not remain hidden for long, it was Wilson's determination
    to bring American boys home from Europe as quickly as possible and
    avoid any further involvement in other European disputes or conflicts.

    Accordingly, Wilson refused to take on any "mandate," such as the
    Armenian territories of Turkey that had been victim of widespread
    massacres, or embark on an invasion of Russia to assist the
    anti-Bolshevik forces that were battling communist troops there.

    If the U.S. had any impact, it was as a moderating influence that
    prevented some of the harshest penalties that threatened to dismember
    Germany entirely, spread famine across wide areas of Central and
    Eastern Europe, and even accelerate the arrival of Bolshevism in
    the West.

    The Treaty was a catastrophe for Wilson and the U.S. Refusing to
    compromise on a single provision when the Senate began the ratification
    process, Wilson embarked on a coast-to-coast whistle stop campaign
    to convince American voters that the Senate had to ratify the Treaty
    and the League of Nations. Halfway through his trip, he suffered
    a major stroke, which incapacitated him for the remainder of his
    presidency. The Treaty was defeated, the U.S. never joined the League
    of Nations, and less than two decades later, the world was plunged
    into another global war.

    Q: Did the Treaty help lead us into the Cold War? Would it have been
    inevitable even if the stipulations hammered out in Versailles had
    been different?

    A: The Treaty did not lead us into the Cold War, but it certainly
    did accelerate the process. Lenin was persuaded that before long,
    communism would move westward, across Central Europe (it was already
    in Hungary), through Germany, and eventually to the Atlantic. He also
    believed that the failure of the Treaty of Versailles (which he viewed
    as inevitable) would simply accelerate the process.

    Accordingly, the conflict between Bolshevism and capitalism was set
    up even before the major powers gathered in Paris in 1919.

    The peacemakers did, as I describe in the book, miss several stellar
    opportunities to open a dialogue with the Bolsheviks that might have
    changed the course or pace of what would become the Cold War.

    Certainly Wilson's refusals to commit American troops to the
    anti-Bolshevik resistance, and the eventual dispatch of Herbert
    Hoover's food to feed the famine-ravaged stretches under Bolshevik
    control won favor from Lenin. Still it would have been interesting to
    see whether a more open policy, even a dialogue begun at that time,
    might have changed the course of the Russian revolution in any fashion,
    or at least its leaders' dealings with the West.

    In the end, though, there was a fundamental disconnect. Bolsheviks
    were perceived as the terrorists of the first decades of the
    Twentieth century. They had taken over by force a major Western ally,
    exterminated its ruling royal family, and waged an ideological war on
    its capitalist enemies. Communism was winning converts throughout the
    Western world. Indeed, the Bolsheviks were never truly absent from
    the negotiating table. Their spirit overhung all of the proceedings.

    The way they were treated by the peacemakers in Paris merely confirmed
    the beliefs of most of Russia's communist leaders - the West was not
    to be trusted, and should be treated as an implacable enemy.
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